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Créé par: Johnny_G13
Équipe: 2019-20 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 12 janv. 2019
Publié: 12 janv. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 000 000 $
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31 750 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
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33 750 000 $
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54 875 000 $
21 100 000 $
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EDM
    Rights to Mattias Janmark
    DAL
    1. Jones, Caleb
    2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
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    EDM
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
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    12 janv. 2019 à 23 h 26
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    That goalie tandem still doesn't get the Oilers into the playoffs. Trade Draisaitl for a real goalie.
    12 janv. 2019 à 23 h 47
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    Quoting: draft_em_sign_em_trade_em
    That goalie tandem still doesn't get the Oilers into the playoffs. Trade Draisaitl for a real goalie.


    Trading a 70+ point centerman for a goaltender is the kind of thinking that got Edmonton in this mess in the first place.

    Edmonton's best bet is to rotate through UFA goaltenders until one of Starrett, Skinner, Wells, or Rodrigue is an NHL-calibre starter.
    12 janv. 2019 à 23 h 49
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    Ouch! Good young defencemen and 3rd round for bottom 6 player
    13 janv. 2019 à 0 h 15
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    Trading a 70+ point centerman for a goaltender is the kind of thinking that got Edmonton in this mess in the first place.

    Edmonton's best bet is to rotate through UFA goaltenders until one of Starrett, Skinner, Wells, or Rodrigue is an NHL-calibre starter.


    Umm...Draisaitl looks and plays like a younger Lucic, big and slow, before the end his contract the Oilers will cursing his name like they do Lucic right now.
    13 janv. 2019 à 0 h 21
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    Ouch! Good young defencemen and 3rd round for bottom 6 player


    U gotta give to get, and Janmark has the potential to be a top 6 guy on a team with a lack of winger depth like the oilers.
    13 janv. 2019 à 0 h 24
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    Umm...Draisaitl looks and plays like a younger Lucic, big and slow, before the end his contract the Oilers will cursing his name like they do Lucic right now.


    If you're going to say a player looks like another, and be that far off base, I'd recommend you try watching the games instead. He's overpaid by $1M at most, but to compare him at 23 to Lucic at 30 is a farce. Fwiw, he's not slow. Big player with a big stride. There's a reason why he spent the majority of his time back in the WHL working on his skating. I genuinely don't know if you're remotely aware of what you're talking about.
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    13 janv. 2019 à 0 h 28
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    U gotta give to get, and Janmark has the potential to be a top 6 guy on a team with a lack of winger depth like the oilers.


    Don’t have to give up a rookie dman that’s playing top 4 minutes. That’s just plain bad managing
    13 janv. 2019 à 0 h 41
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    If you're going to say a player looks like another, and be that far off base, I'd recommend you try watching the games instead. He's overpaid by $1M at most, but to compare him at 23 to Lucic at 30 is a farce. Fwiw, he's not slow. Big player with a big stride. There's a reason why he spent the majority of his time back in the WHL working on his skating. I genuinely don't know if you're remotely aware of what you're talking about.


    I watched tonight's game, Draisaitl was a slug, I couldn't tell the difference between #27 and #29. Well #27 plays with more heart. Edmonton needs more fast skilled players, they have too many slow big bodies, this is why they're losers, the game has changed.
    13 janv. 2019 à 1 h 1
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    I watched tonight's game, Draisaitl was a slug, I couldn't tell the difference between #27 and #29. Well #27 plays with more heart. Edmonton needs more fast skilled players, they have too many slow big bodies, this is why they're losers, the game has changed.


    This team's problems do not start nor end with Draisaitl. An attitude that suggests otherwise only serves to run good players out of town for pennies on the dollar. Schultz? Dubnyk? Eberle? Any Oilers fan - not just yourself in particular - deserves the Oilers at their ****tiest if they truly believe #29 is a problem. You'll never convince me that 54 points in 45 games is a problem. You have no argument.
    13 janv. 2019 à 1 h 2
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    Why sign an aging, declining Silfverberg when Benson could very well earn that spot next year?
    13 janv. 2019 à 1 h 10
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    Quoting: BeterChiarelli
    This team's problems do not start nor end with Draisaitl. An attitude that suggests otherwise only serves to run good players out of town for pennies on the dollar. Schultz? Dubnyk? Eberle? Any Oilers fan - not just yourself in particular - deserves the Oilers at their ****tiest if they truly believe #29 is a problem. You'll never convince me that 54 points in 45 games is a problem. You have no argument.


    I'd rather the Oilers have a 8+ million $ All star goalie than Draisaitl. If only Bobro walks away from Columbus and into Edmonton.
    13 janv. 2019 à 1 h 14
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    I'd rather the Oilers have a 8+ million $ All star goalie than Draisaitl. If only Bobro walks away from Columbus and into Edmonton.


    What's the difference between a $5M goalie and an $8M goalie? You're overpaying for voodoo. Invest that money elsewhere, perhaps in something that can help control how much your team scores goals? To win a hockey game, you need to score goals. You can't win a game 0-0. You could run a thousand simulations and get the same result. An $8M forward does more for a team than an $8M goaltender would. That's why there are only 2 $8M goaltenders right now.
    13 janv. 2019 à 14 h 31
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    What's the difference between a $5M goalie and an $8M goalie? You're overpaying for voodoo. Invest that money elsewhere, perhaps in something that can help control how much your team scores goals? To win a hockey game, you need to score goals. You can't win a game 0-0. You could run a thousand simulations and get the same result. An $8M forward does more for a team than an $8M goaltender would. That's why there are only 2 $8M goaltenders right now.


    Paying 5-6 million on a pair of below average goalies definitely results in no playoff action. History tells us a super hot goalie in the playoffs wins you Championships when you have sub par offensive; ei: LA Kings don't win 2 Cups without Quick.
    13 janv. 2019 à 15 h 8
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    Paying 5-6 million on a pair of below average goalies definitely results in no playoff action. History tells us a super hot goalie in the playoffs wins you Championships when you have sub par offensive; ei: LA Kings don't win 2 Cups without Quick.


    I want you to take a look at the top 16 goaltenders over the last 3 seasons and tell many how many of them have cost less than $6M. I'm not arguing that an elite goaltender isn't worth north of $8M nor that teams can't win with them (keep in mind those LA teams could NOT score goals to save their lives). My point is that an elite goaltender is a luxury that most teams shouldn't have to invest in. You can win the cup with good goaltenders. An elite one is unnecessary. Otherwise, Montreal, Columbus, and New York (Rangers) would consistently be in the ECF contending for a cup.

    Fundamentally, is paying upwards of an additional $3M for the difference between a .920sv% and a .935sv% goaltender worthwhile? Using shot data from last season, you're looking at the difference between 2.57 goals against per game and 2.10 goals against per game (difference of 39 goals against over a season). Would you be better off investing that extra $3M to prevent 39 goals a year OR spending that money on an elite forward, who may generate 39 goals per year? Are you more likely to win games by outscoring the opponent or avoiding being outscored?
    13 janv. 2019 à 15 h 49
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    I want you to take a look at the top 16 goaltenders over the last 3 seasons and tell many how many of them have cost less than $6M. I'm not arguing that an elite goaltender isn't worth north of $8M nor that teams can't win with them (keep in mind those LA teams could NOT score goals to save their lives). My point is that an elite goaltender is a luxury that most teams shouldn't have to invest in. You can win the cup with good goaltenders. An elite one is unnecessary. Otherwise, Montreal, Columbus, and New York (Rangers) would consistently be in the ECF contending for a cup.

    Fundamentally, is paying upwards of an additional $3M for the difference between a .920sv% and a .935sv% goaltender worthwhile? Using shot data from last season, you're looking at the difference between 2.57 goals against per game and 2.10 goals against per game (difference of 39 goals against over a season). Would you be better off investing that extra $3M to prevent 39 goals a year OR spending that money on an elite forward, who may generate 39 goals per year? Are you more likely to win games by outscoring the opponent or avoiding being outscored?


    Well we both can agree the Oilers are a hot mess which having 21 million on 2 superstars can't solve.
    13 janv. 2019 à 15 h 57
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    Well we both can agree the Oilers are a hot mess which having 21 million on 2 superstars can't solve.


    Currently, no, it's not a mess that neither McDavid or Draisaitl can solve on their own. Complementary pieces are desperately needed, and being able to separate the two while having a legitimate top-6 will be part of that equation. Whether or not RNH is ran as the #3C (a la Toronto with 91/34/43 down the middle) or as a winger is up to how the organization procures NHL talent. I'd prefer the former.
     
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