Why Laine, Rantanen, Tkachuk and Boeser?

Most of these players aren't overrated.

Just guessing, but i'd guess he is thinking along the lines of:
Laine is a 1 dimensional superstar (on pace for 61 goals, 70 points showing he has little else to offer but his goalscoring ability).
Rantenen is on a hot streak and will cool off. The heights that people are talking about him are overblown.
I don't have a clue about Tkachuk. Maybe being touted as one of Ottawa's saviours?
Boeser not having as good a year compared to how he was talked about last year.

I am not sure I see what OP has outside of these things if he wants to make that point.

Laine, Rantanen, and Boeser dont drive play and are bad defensively, especially the 1st two, and ive seen a lot of people say they are top 5 RWs. Tkachuk because he is riding a crazy PDO bender while being carried by Stone, people are saying he should be the Calder front runner but thats just gross.

Because he has a massive hard on for advanced stats and thinks that they are the Ten Commandments of hockey now.

Laine does nothing other than shoot. He's bad in his own end, he's not a great skater,he's PP merchant, and even then, he depends on the play of Wheeler, Scheifele, Connor and Byfuglien.
Rantanen is a Mackinnon product and doesn't have good possession numbers.
Boeser more of the same as mentioned above

I mean, yes they are. That's why they're on this team

elias lindholm is not overrated. wtff. have u seen the mans realease. he has a decent 2 way game too

Relies on the PP and is in the 27th percentile for xGA.

my man. underlying stats dont matter that much. its still stupid to say he's overrated. look at what else he does besdies scoring. only 5 of his 16 goals are on the PP.look at the value he brings on that contract. such a stupid post tbh.

im just curious where you come up with some of these. you cant just beat your meat to advanced stats, you gotta actually watch the games. the ones i dont like are Rantanen, Laine, Boeser, Burns, OEL and Risto.

Explain what is so bad about advanced stats.

if you have a line of mcdavid and 4 of the worst players in the league. mcdavid isnt going to have the best advanced stats cause his team is weighing him down. but in Rantanens case, you wont be able to see some of the plays he makes, the little things like working hard to get the puck out or something along those lines. it doesnt describe a player and how good they are. its a good base, but i wouldnt fully rely on it. so thats why im curious where youre basing this off of

McDavid would still probably have good advanced stats because he can drive play like a truck and is the best player in the NHL. Rantanen doesnt drive play at all and if you took him away from MacKinnon he would struggle. Laine is a pp merchant who only has one elite aspect, his shot. Risto is just not good, dont see why people think he's good. Burns is genuinely tragic defensively, 11th percentile in xGA and 27th percentile in shots against. OEL also has pretty bad stats, 16th percentile xGF%, 18th percentile xGA, 41st percentile in cf%, and 26th percentile in shots against.

so when i say advanced stats arent everything you go and read me a bunch of advanced stats? also have you noticed that mackinnon wasnt the player he was until he got on a line with Rantanen? Mackinnon couldnt do what he was doing with whatever players he played with before. also Rantanen was a 10th overall pick, he didnt become a 10th overall pick cause he got carried in finland. so lets not take anything away from Rantanen, im sure he would do fine on a line with an average center, maybe not the same point production, but im sure he would still pull 70+ points and 20+ goals. also regarding laine and boeser (assuming its the same argument for both) scoring wingers arent there to play defense, theyre there for scoring goals and being a weapon on the pp. as long as they arent liabilities on the back end you shouldnt worry too much about their defensive abilities. yes defense is important, so if they were centers i would be worried, but being wingers they are there to score and put up points.

When you evaluate players solely on the eye test, you automatically subject yourself to the confirmation bias.

As for the players, yes, all those players are massively overrated.

Funny thing is that Laine and Boeser are actually liabilities while in their own end.

how is zucc a liability i understand pionk because he is praised as a top pairing defence while he isnt that good in his own end i would put him as a top 4 defenceman currently NYR fan but zucc overated in any way? He has been a 60+ player and hasnt had any consistent good partners or all stars with him up front other than nash but nash slowed down 3 years ago.

for boeser maybe at the start of the season, when he was dealing with his groin injury, but im a canucks and i watch every game, he doesnt make dumb plays, he makes the smart play for the most part. i dont watch the jets so i couldnt say the same about laine

how do i become bias based on eye test? i never said i watch every game played for each team, im not The hockey guy (youtuber not nickname) im just saying that advanced stats dont tell everything that happens on the ice, its a good base to look at, but its not something that i would make an EA nhl 19 rating off of.

No one said Tkachuk was the front-runner? Petterson is clearly the front-runner. All people are saying that if he doesn't keep up his productivity, Tkchacuk (as well as Dahlin) could give him a run for his money. The point is that Tkachuk has been so much better than everyone expected.

If you relied entirely on advanced stats, Ozhiganov and Dermot are Toronto's 2 best Defensemen while everyone clearly knows they aren't. Get it?

Also, it's so much easier to be a good defensive player than to top scorer in this league. You can sign a random player from Europe to 900k contract who's a good defender/PK specialist. That being said, finding a pure goal scorer is so rare. That's why these guys get the big contracts.

Yeah, obviously you'd want them to be able to defend, but not everyone's a two way forward.

As a jets fan I agree that laine is overrated. He is only good at scoring