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Coyle to Boston

Créé par: Breakaway
Équipe: 2018-19 Bruins de Boston
Date de création initiale: 26 nov. 2018
Publié: 26 nov. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
BOS
  1. Coyle, Charlie
Détails additionnels:
The Bruins get some help for this season. Khokhlachev didn't come back to NA this summer to play for Coach Bruce Cassidy (his coach for the P Bruins), so it's not certain he'd come back to play for the Bruins next season at all. He probably comes back if he's traded though so Minnesota shouldn't worry.
MIN
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
Détails additionnels:
Rights to Alexander Khokhlachev

Minnesota has enough prospects and Staal is an UFA this coming summer. Khokhlachev could probably atleast play 3rd line center for the Wild next season.
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26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 14
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Koko has zero value
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 15
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Donato or bust
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 32
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Koko has zero value


Not true. Does not have much value. But does not need to in this situation.
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 32
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Donato or bust


Not getting Donato for a guy who scores 10-15.
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 35
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Not getting Donato for a guy who scores 10-15.


Teams saw donato play in the nhl this year. They’re not giving up much for him
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 35
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Not true. Does not have much value. But does not need to in this situation.


You’re right. Zero is hyperbole. He has maybe a 7th round pick value
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26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 37
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Teams saw donato play in the nhl this year. They’re not giving up much for him


Sure 10.games defines a career. He’s tearing up the AHL since the demotion. He’s arguably our top fw prospect. Most GMs in the league have their eye on him if B’s are looking to add a vet.
26 nov. 2018 à 19 h 44
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Quoting: Gofnut999
Sure 10.games defines a career. He’s tearing up the AHL since the demotion. He’s arguably our top fw prospect. Most GMs in the league have their eye on him if B’s are looking to add a vet.



I would love it if you could show me where I said that donatos performance defines his career. However he has looked very unimpressive, and it teams are looking to trade for him, they’re trying to buy low of course
26 nov. 2018 à 21 h 9
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I would love it if you could show me where I said that donatos performance defines his career. However he has looked very unimpressive, and it teams are looking to trade for him, they’re trying to buy low of course


You implied teams were basing his value of those games. It’s barely a blip.

Not true. When B’s start calling around looking for a vet to bring in, Donato and Urho will be the two prospects that teams will be most interested in.
26 nov. 2018 à 21 h 17
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You implied teams were basing his value of those games. It’s barely a blip.

Not true. When B’s start calling around looking for a vet to bring in, Donato and Urho will be the two prospects that teams will be most interested in.


Probably Studnicka over donato. It would be one thing if he was lighting up providence without ever getting an nhl look, but they gave him a look. They gave him a good top six look and he got 0 even strength points and one pp tap in. He looked terrible. Of course teams know he can still develop, but that showing removed any top tier prospect label that anyone put on him. Chris bourque syndrome has to be a concern
26 nov. 2018 à 22 h 45
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Probably Studnicka over donato. It would be one thing if he was lighting up providence without ever getting an nhl look, but they gave him a look. They gave him a good top six look and he got 0 even strength points and one pp tap in. He looked terrible. Of course teams know he can still develop, but that showing removed any top tier prospect label that anyone put on him. Chris bourque syndrome has to be a concern



Nah, to small a sample size and to early in his career. That’s fan logic. Fans are generally Too emotionally invested and to short sighted. GMs don’t think like that.

Studnicka would be high on the list as well tho. Especially being a center. His size is a bit of concern but he could still grow and some muscle.
26 nov. 2018 à 23 h 16
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Nah, to small a sample size and to early in his career. That’s fan logic. Fans are generally Too emotionally invested and to short sighted. GMs don’t think like that.

Studnicka would be high on the list as well tho. Especially being a center. His size is a bit of concern but he could still grow and some muscle.


Studnicka is bigger than donato
26 nov. 2018 à 23 h 20
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Studnicka is bigger than donato


Donato has about 25 pounds on him.

Watched Stud play 4-5 times in jrs. last year. Very small frame.
26 nov. 2018 à 23 h 21
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I don't get all these Coyle to Bos trades. It doesn't really make sense other than he's from Mass.

I also don't see any reason for MN to move him; he's not great by any means, don't get me wrong, but:
- He's worth his $3.2m contract and MN isn't cap tight for once.
- There isn't any AHL players pushing for a NHL spot.
- He's the only RHS FWD in the top-9 (Brown and Fehr are the other ones on the roster).
- Has the ability to play center and the Wild are pretty barren for center depth.
- MN is in the Playoff picture and it'll be a dogfight the rest of the year in the Central.
- He's a sell low player and a non-overpay return won't really do much to make the Wild better.

Both BOS and MN are in the same boat by needing to make their current rosters better to stay in the Playoff picture. Making holes in their roster for picks/prospects doesn't match up with the "win now" mode both teams are currently in.
27 nov. 2018 à 0 h 20
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I don't get all these Coyle to Bos trades. It doesn't really make sense other than he's from Mass.

I also don't see any reason for MN to move him; he's not great by any means, don't get me wrong, but:
- He's worth his $3.2m contract and MN isn't cap tight for once.
- There isn't any AHL players pushing for a NHL spot.
- He's the only RHS FWD in the top-9 (Brown and Fehr are the other ones on the roster).
- Has the ability to play center and the Wild are pretty barren for center depth.
- MN is in the Playoff picture and it'll be a dogfight the rest of the year in the Central.
- He's a sell low player and a non-overpay return won't really do much to make the Wild better.

Both BOS and MN are in the same boat by needing to make their current rosters better to stay in the Playoff picture. Making holes in their roster for picks/prospects doesn't match up with the "win now" mode both teams are currently in.


Those are a lot of the reasons why Boston wants him.

Why Minny moves him, if they do, term. He is a UFA after next year. Teams are trying to move players the year before that happens more often. Long term asset for short term. But as long as they are in contention i don’t see them doing it.
27 nov. 2018 à 9 h 3
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Quoting: Bcarlo25
Probably Studnicka over donato. It would be one thing if he was lighting up providence without ever getting an nhl look, but they gave him a look. They gave him a good top six look and he got 0 even strength points and one pp tap in. He looked terrible. Of course teams know he can still develop, but that showing removed any top tier prospect label that anyone put on him. Chris bourque syndrome has to be a concern


Your points are pretty stupid as you're judgeing Donato solely on this season. If you're into short term projections you need to factor in last season as well and he'd have 10 points in 23 games total. That's very good for a prospect his age. I personally throw both years out because I don't think he's either player and hasn't really found himself / his role in the NHL yet. That still leaves him with the most value out of any Bruins F prospect imo. Studnicka is pretty good but he's in jrs. as a soon to be 20 year old, of course he's going to look good playing against younger competition.
27 nov. 2018 à 9 h 16
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Your points are pretty stupid as you're judgeing Donato solely on this season. If you're into short term projections you need to factor in last season as well and he'd have 10 points in 23 games total. That's very good for a prospect his age. I personally throw both years out because I don't think he's either player and hasn't really found himself / his role in the NHL yet. That still leaves him with the most value out of any Bruins F prospect imo. Studnicka is pretty good but he's in jrs. as a soon to be 20 year old, of course he's going to look good playing against younger competition.


Ya, no. I’m not making any projections on what donato will be, and I’m not saying his pro career so far defines him, but he was embarrassingly bad this season. He’s also 22. Not like he’s super young. He’s still got plenty of potential but at 22, looking that lost in the nhl is a bad look, and certainly knocks his trade value way down
27 nov. 2018 à 10 h 15
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Those are a lot of the reasons why Boston wants him.

Why Minny moves him, if they do, term. He is a UFA after next year. Teams are trying to move players the year before that happens more often. Long term asset for short term. But as long as they are in contention i don’t see them doing it.


In theory the assets thinking makes sense, and I'd be for it if MN decided to tank the season for whatever reason. Bos has some nice prospects, they just don't matchup well with MN's team (current and future) needs:
- Any of the d-men won't have a chance to be anything more than an injury callup, without a different major trade.
- The Wild are already LHS wing heavy.
- MN's center depth is nonexistent.
- RHS FWDs are the other team need.

Looking at that if there are talks between the GMs; I see Wild GMPF being stuck on JFK as being the player coming to MN. I'm not commenting on the trade value there, but JFK is really the only one that fills the Coyle (RW/C) void. A couple of the LHS FWDs could work, but they only make sense if the Wild tank the season and look to the future.
27 nov. 2018 à 10 h 18
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Quoting: wabit
In theory the assets thinking makes sense, and I'd be for it if MN decided to tank the season for whatever reason. Bos has some nice prospects, they just don't matchup well with MN's team (current and future) needs:
- Any of the d-men won't have a chance to be anything more than an injury callup, without a different major trade.
- The Wild are already LHS wing heavy.
- MN's center depth is nonexistent.
- RHS FWDs are the other team need.

Looking at that if there are talks between the GMs; I see Wild GMPF being stuck on JFK as being the player coming to MN. I'm not commenting on the trade value there, but JFK is really the only one that fills the Coyle (RW/C) void. A couple of the LHS FWDs could work, but they only make sense if the Wild tank the season and look to the future.


I tried a 3way based off of this idea. Duchene to Minny. Coyle to Boston. Pick and Prospects to Ottawa.
27 nov. 2018 à 10 h 25
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I tried a 3way based off of this idea. Duchene to Minny. Coyle to Boston. Pick and Prospects to Ottawa.


I'm playing with that idea in that thread.
 
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