1. saad isn't good.
2. saad isn't a center.

Bruh...

I don’t follow Vancouver much at all but, like Chicago, they have also been a pleasant surprise early on. They even beat Pittsburgh last night without Pettersson! As a Hawks fan, I do like this Sutter addition, even if it was, perhaps, straight up for Saad. As for your lineup, tho, there are too many “not rights” in it. On defense, Jokiharju is playing great with Keith, Seabrook is finally getting the proper TOI, Murphy is injured, Gustafsson is playing too well to sit. Up front, Kahun is producing on the rejuvenated Toews line, Kunitz and Martinsen are bottom six material and Schmaltz is a top 6 guy.

That trade is a no go. Juolevi is a 5th overall draft pick, they’re not letting him go like that. And Saad does not play center.

I have to question if you even watch the hawks considering you put schmaltz on the 4th line. Martinsen who should be in the AHL is on the 2nd line while Kahun isn’t even in the lineup?! The lines and defensive pairings are whack.

1. I haven't seen Saad for a while, and unless he's got off-ice addictions, I think he can still play given plenty of icetime
2. My mistake, I had assumed he played C in Jr but moved over in the pros


Who is the deal bad for? Is Saad that bad?



Yeah, I just went quickly by the eliteprospects depth chart. I know Schmaltz is better than a 4C, but I figured he might get the fewest minutes because he wouldn't score more than Toews/Anisimov and he would do fewer D-zone starts than Sutter. Gustaffsson may be playing well, but it's rare for D to break in the NHL and stick at 26, so I wanted to feature Juolevi - Jokiharju who could play a lot of minutes for a long time as a kind of Keith-Seabrook successor.

You bet, bud!

Fair enough about the Canucks not giving up on Juolevi, but he's behind their last 1st round pick Quinton Hughes in the depth chart. Maybe they'd rather trade Eriksson for Saad, but Chicago won't want that same cap hit, for longer, to an older player.

Schmaltz -- Yeah I checked his numbers. Toews is obviously #1, and I put Anisimov #2. I made the 3rd line the better checking line. It definitely wasn't a statement about value, just a guess at today's minutes with the benefit of the doubt given to age and salary. If Panarin comes back to Chicago, without knowing Chicago, I would guess Anisimov gets first crack at centering his line

big contract. poor production.

Yeah, it's one of the teams with lots of cap space taking a small gamble that Saad can hit 30 goals again with more ice time. He's 25 with 3 seasons, including this one, at $6 million.
Look at what JVR got paid by Philadelphia in free agency, this trade sets up both teams to maintain cap space when they need it.

Chicago gets cap space back today, balances out their roster, and if anything adds to future prospects
Vancouver pays Saad too much initially when they have space, but gets good value so long as he's worth extending. Either Saad scores 30+ again and signs a cheap extension with a NTC, or he signs a plain cheap deal and becomes a good value bottom six.


I'm not wedded to this idea. It was just my kick at the can for what seems to be a popular fresh armchair GM theme right now.
I picked it because Brandon for Brandon, twin finns, and it didn't involve draft picks or top positions in the depth chart or salary retention or a multi-team deal
If the idea has legs, someone will eventually refine it into a state of balance. The hard part is avoiding untouchables, without including too many pieces.

Saad + Kruger for Sutter + Granlund?

Saad’s Contract is basically untradable

And like previously stated,
u must not even watch the Hawks with some of your lineup choices

I’m a Sabres fan & it seems i know more about Chicago than u do

This is pretty bad overall

If you want this trade to go through then give 2 first round picks to Vancouver otherwise f**k OFF!