If the Sharks don’t have room to resign Karlsson, why wouldn’t Colorado wait u til he becomes a UFA? He’s stated publicly that he wants to take his time to decide where to sign, so Colorado trading for him doesn’t make it any more or less likely that he signs a long term contract with the Avalanche.

Good question. The answer to your question is twofold: if Avalanche manages to get a good first half to this season, they might want to bolster their defense and go for a deep run with Karlsson. So that's one precondition, you might say. One thing what's going for Avs, is their cap room. They could want to take Karlsson off the market before other teams got their hands into him in the offseason when Karlsson will be UFA. The possibility of Karlsson being a rental is also taken into consideration on this trade. I tried to compare the trades of Pacioretty from MTL to VGK and Karlsson from OTT to SJS. I think the value here is pretty fair and comparable.

You should trade him to Tampa or anywhere in the east so we could get another 1st rounder. But wanting to move on already? Damn

It's a pass for me but maybe next time! This trade would start the building of the Sharks future. This wouldn't be a total takedown of the whole team but this is something Sharks are gonna need in a few years. Getting Merkley and Makar for SJS' defensive core woud be a strong core to build their future around. Getting those 1st round picks back should be used for getting strong centers and other forwards to build up the future forward core.

Bahahaha just ridiculous, sharks give Ottawa nothing for Karlsson, he doesnt do well in San jose after 6 games... avs give up the world to get him... no thanks

Im a Sens fan. And I don't think SJ would get Makar or Ottawa's 1st in any trade.

He also wants Colorado's first if Karlsson resigns... so I guessing as an nhl GM if I'm giving up my best prospect a 1st and 2nd at the TDL I'd want to resign the guy... but then that causes my 2nd to become a first?

Just silly, San jose expects people to overpay for a guy they severely underpaid for

I can confirm that these allegations that Ottawa got nothing for Karlsson are false!!

Tierney is solid! Norris and Balcer are both off to great starts. And we got picks.

and Dylan Demelo leads the league in +/- and has 5pts in 6 games

Karlsson is already a great skater (and puck mover). In the Rockie Mountains, he would continue to fly. I agree with some of the others tho, this trade seems to be lopsided in SJ’s favor. The Avs should get, at least, a higher pick than the ‘19 5th from the Sharks.

Let me give you what was my thinking through this post: we paid 1st round pick, 2 roster players and 2 prospects for Karlsson. Francis Perron was cool and all but didn't really contribute that much to the trade. This trade includes 1st round pick, 2nd round pick, a prospect and a roster player.

Söderberg is a little bit of a problem for COL due to his bigger cap hit. That cap hit comes a little bit in the way of resigning their UFAs and RFAs, which is partly the reason why he is included in the trade. I also wanted to include a player in the trade which can be called somewhat a cap dump to ease out the trade value, but that we get a forward who can be put into the lineup right away. There is $1,000,000 retained on Söderberg's part but if needed, the retained salary can also be taken away. It was just convenience on San Jose's part cause it could have helped a bit on resigning all the Sharks UFAs and RFAs coming up, but the retained salary isn't really anything to be that caught up to. Söderberg is a solid part of the trade but nothing really special.

I also wouldn't be that sad if the 1st round pick was changed into the Avalanche's own pick rather than getting the Ottawa's pick. Of course, it would be a great addition to the trade but that's also something I'm not fixed into. If the OTT pick isn't tradeable, then it isn't. It's just important to get at least one 1st rounder back 'cause we gave up one also to Ottawa.

Makar is the most important part of the trade. Sharks need to bolster up their prospect pool. Sharks roster is getting older (I'm not one of those who makes a big deal out of it) so it's crucial to get the system rolling already so that the transition from the older players to the new ones doesn't take long. Makar is a really good prospect, seems to be the best one in Avalanche's prospect pool. His value seems to be higher than Nick Suzuki's when he was traded to MTL in the Pacioretty trade. Then again, Karlsson is also hígher value as an asset than Pacioretty. There is no trade happening without Makar due to Landeskog, MacKinnon, Rantanen and Barrie kinda being off the limits. Or that's what I've heard. If I am wrong, please tell me!

2nd round pick is also expendable in this trade but 1st round pick, Söderberg and Makar seemed to be a small package for Karlsson and Heed in my eyes. I could be wrong also on this matter but that's the reason 2nd round pick is included. If the possible second 1st rounder is a big problem, I could see it being a 3rd rounder first which is changed into 2nd rounder if extension comes into play.

1st round pick (COL), Makar and Söderberg is the package I am looking at which would be the least what I'd want to see as a return from Karlsson. Somehow it seems to be a little low for San Jose's side but like I've said, I can be wrong on that. Heed and the possible extra pick from San Jose's side are assets to bring some balance from the other side. That means the pick can be a 3rd or a 4th rounder from SJS or so. I'd want to see a conditional pick from Avs side but I'm not really sure what is the right addition exactly to the package.

I agree that what Ottawa gained as a return for Karlsson was on the low side but it wasn't "nothing".

If the Avs wanted Karlsson, they would have offered something like that to Ottawa. Especially with OTT 1st involved. I would have done a signed Karlsson for Makar+Ott 1st in a heartbeat, but I have no idea why Colorado would.

Pretty fair trade imo, however i don’t think Erik will be traded, he will most likely resign for 11-12 mil but if he is traded I’d be ok with this