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Montreal Canadians in on nylander

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Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 30 sept. 2018
Publié: 30 sept. 2018
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30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 23
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of course any team would want a young player like him. but he's not worth what ur sending back. 2-3 years down the road im willing to bet any money that drouin will be better then nylander. and suzuki is legit. guys gonna be a c top 6 center in the nhl. not worth trading that much for nylander. u guys are highly overvaluing him. ur making him seem like he;s an 8 mill dollar player, but all the leafs fans are saying he's worth 6 and he aint better then pastarnak. make up ur mind


He’s worth more than what you are sending. Seriously would you trade Drouin, Domi, or Gallagher for a couple of 3rd liners a 7th dman, a talented by undersized dman, and a 2nd? No? Ok then.
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30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 24
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lol man. i studied all about bias. im a management student lmao. like i said before, im not saying he can't play center, but he can't be a good one. he might score. sure. thats great. but a center also has a lot of defensive responsibility. and for the packages ur talking about, hell no he aint worth that much.


We are in agreement that he is best on the wing, but he is a fine 1C, as I said, not great, but good. If forced to play C, He would do best as a 2C, not because he cannot play 1C, but because he would dominate the weaker competition. With the New Leafs lines (with us drafting Laine instead of Matthews, this is what Nylander at C would look like.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Nyalnder - Laine <---- a completely dominant 2nd line
Ennis - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Lindholm - Kapanen

But as I said, he is fine as a 1C, He has proven it, and he is better defensively than you think he is, I was very impressed by his 1C work while Matthews was out, especially by how he was in the D zone.
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30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 25
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He’s worth more than what you are sending. Seriously would you trade Drouin, Domi, or Gallagher for a couple of 3rd liners a 7th dman, a talented by undersized dman, and a 2nd? No? Ok then.


i never said that trade was good. read what i said. ur giving up too much quantity in that trade. plus look at the teams needs. habs need defensemen. habs need centers. why trade them to acquire a winger? mete is an essential part of the team. him and juulsen make an excellent pairing that can play 20 plus mins a night.
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 26
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jesus ******* christ
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30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 27
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We are in agreement that he is best on the wing, but he is a fine 1C, as I said, not great, but good. If forced to play C, He would do best as a 2C, not because he cannot play 1C, but because he would dominate the weaker competition. With the New Leafs lines (with us drafting Laine instead of Matthews, this is what Nylander at C would look like.

Hyman - Tavares - Marner
Marleau - Nyalnder - Laine <---- an completely dominant 2nd line
Ennis - Kadri - Brown
Johnsson - Lindholm - Kapanen

But as I said, he is fine as a 1C, He has proven it, and he is better defensively than you think he is, I was very impressed by his 1C work while Matthews was out, especially by how he was in the D zone.


yes i watched those games. he performed well. but u gotta play like for an 82 game season plus playoffs. some guys dont have that. thats why some players are better suited on the wing. like matthews is good offensively and defensively and drives play. he checks the box and exceeds expectations of what a top line center should be able to do. nylander can score. no doubt. but he is better suited at wing
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 28
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i never said that trade was good. read what i said. ur giving up too much quantity in that trade. plus look at the teams needs. habs need defensemen. habs need centers. why trade them to acquire a winger? mete is an essential part of the team. him and juulsen make an excellent pairing that can play 20 plus mins a night.


Trading a bunch of mediocrity for 1st liner. Only Chiarelli would pass. You keep dreaming though. ??
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30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 29
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Trading a bunch of mediocrity for 1st liner. Only Chiarelli would pass. You keep dreaming though. ??


what arent u getting about team needs lmao. yes i agree that he's a 1st line player. theres no doubt in that. but ur giving up too many key pieces for him.
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 31
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what arent u getting about team needs lmao. yes i agree that he's a 1st line player. theres no doubt in that. but ur giving up too many key pieces for him.


No you aren’t. There is nothing key there, nothing that is not replacable with next man up outside of Mete. Stop being such a Homer.
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 33
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what arent u getting about team needs lmao. yes i agree that he's a 1st line player. theres no doubt in that. but ur giving up too many key pieces for him.


No you aren't giving up anything lol.

I will go over this very slowly for you:
Mete: Good dman, actually worth something
Danault - Good centre, Leafs don't need him, like at all, we need a 4th line grinder kind of guy, whatever you think adding him does, it does the opposite
Rielly and Sherbek are literally scratches for the leafs. You would have to pay us to take them.
a likely high 2nd - Actually worth something.

That leaves us with
Nylander for:
Mete, a 2nd

I think we will pass
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 34
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No you aren’t. There is nothing key there, nothing that is not replacable with next man up outside of Mete. Stop being such a Homer.


have u seen the habs defense? mete is 1 of the 3 puck movers on that team. and he's the fastest and the best at it. we need a guy like him. we also need offense. but if we a surplus of defensemne, sure we'd trade him. but we dont. thats why habs gotta draft. thats what they've been doing past 2 years. 2017 they drafted after the 1st rd, defensemen after defensemen. the in 18 draft, they drafted centers after centers. now u gotta wait. like nashville had a surplus on the back end, so thye used that to acquire a player who plays a position that they're in need of, aka the jones and johannsen trade.
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 36
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No you aren't giving up anything lol.

I will go over this very slowly for you:
Mete: Good dman, actually worth something
Danault - Good centre, Leafs don't need him, like at all, we need a 4th line grinder kind of guy, whatever you think adding him does, it does the opposite
Rielly and Sherbek are literally scratches for the leafs. You would have to pay us to take them.
a likely high 2nd - Actually worth something.

That leaves us with
Nylander for:
Mete, a 2nd

I think we will pass


mete= habs need him. one of the few young puck movers we have.
danault= habs starved for centers. why trade a good 3rd line center who plays well defensively
scherbak=still young and can be traded, dont mind
im not saying that nylander isn't worth what has been proposed. the pieces are all wrong from the habs end. they arnet in a position to trade for a player of nyalnders caliber.
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 47
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Holy **** these leafs fans are ******* stupid. If anything MTL is giving up a bit much considering every piece there has value especially Mete. I’ll give it 5 stars cause it shouldn’t have 1
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 49
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Holy **** these leafs fans are ******* stupid. If anything MTL is giving up a bit much considering every piece there has value especially Mete. I’ll give it 5 stars cause it shouldn’t have 1


I would like to copy paste this answer from literally 2 posts up, since you did not read it

No you aren't giving up anything lol.

I will go over this very slowly for you:
Mete: Good #2 L-dman, actually worth something
Danault - Good 3rd line centre, Leafs don't need him, like at all, we need a 4th line grinder kind of guy, whatever you think adding him does, it does the opposite
Reilly and Sherbek are literally scratches for the leafs. You would have to pay us to take them.
a likely high 2nd - Actually worth something.

That leaves us with
Nylander for:
Mete, a 2nd

I think we will pass
30 sept. 2018 à 14 h 50
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have u seen the habs defense? mete is 1 of the 3 puck movers on that team. and he's the fastest and the best at it. we need a guy like him. we also need offense. but if we a surplus of defensemne, sure we'd trade him. but we dont. thats why habs gotta draft. thats what they've been doing past 2 years. 2017 they drafted after the 1st rd, defensemen after defensemen. the in 18 draft, they drafted centers after centers. now u gotta wait. like nashville had a surplus on the back end, so thye used that to acquire a player who plays a position that they're in need of, aka the jones and johannsen trade.


He is, he also is below average defensively and may very well be the smallest player in the league. I know, he’s not listed that way, but i’m skeptical. He’s young fast, puck mover. And nowhere near as good or as valuable as Nylander, and the rest of the pile does not come close to making up the difference. Yes you need him, the rest are easily replacable. I’d rather have the 1st line fw than a small d man with holes in his game. I know all about this, see Krug. Mete is not a building block, he is a complimentary piece. Nylander is a building block. No GM in the league would turn down this trade from Habs perspective. And no GM would propose it from Leafs perspective. It’s not close in value.

For perspective. Bruins are loaded at LW. Yet they are still kicking the tires on Panarin. Why? Because better players make your team better even if you don’t really need them.

Nylander is better than the collection that was offered. By a lot actually. It’s a no brainer. Unless you don’t like trading $10 worth of junk for $50. No matter how sentimental it is to you.
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30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 0
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He is, he also is below average defensively and may very well be the smallest player in the league. I know, he’s not listed that way, but i’m skeptical. He’s young fast, puck mover. And nowhere near as good or as valuable as Nylander, and the rest of the pile does not come close to making up the difference. Yes you need him, the rest are easily replacable. I’d rather have the 1st line fw than a small d man with holes in his game. I know all about this, see Krug. Mete is not a building block, he is a complimentary piece. Nylander is a building block. No GM in the league would turn down this tade from Habs perspective. And no GM would propose it from Leafs perspective. It’s not close in value.

For perspective. Bruins are loaded at LW. Yet they are still kicking the tires on Panarin. Why? Because better players make your team better even if you don’t really need them.

Nylander is better than the collection that was offered. By a lot actually. It’s a no brainer. Unless you don’t like trading $10 worth of junk for $50. No matter how sentimental it is to you.


bud. im not gonna argue about mete. u seem as if u really havent seen him play. panarin is a fa to be. u can get him than. value wise, nylander is worth way more then the packaged propsoed. but the pieces the habs are sending are essential parts of the team. what dont u understand about that? mete is an essential part of the team. if u said that how about domi juulsen lindgren and a pick. sure we can go from thier. juulsen is a top 4 rhd who plays a game similar to shea weber but doesn t produce as much offensively. domi is a question mark, but a question mark loaded with potential. lindgren and andersen can be a very good combo for the leafs cause lindgren can steal u game often. but the lhd side is extremely weak for the habs. thats why i wouldnt trade mete. do u get where im going with this?
30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 15
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bud. im not gonna argue about mete. u seem as if u really havent seen him play. panarin is a fa to be. u can get him than. value wise, nylander is worth way more then the packaged propsoed. but the pieces the habs are sending are essential parts of the team. what dont u understand about that? mete is an essential part of the team. if u said that how about domi juulsen lindgren and a pick. sure we can go from thier. juulsen is a top 4 rhd who plays a game similar to shea weber but doesn t produce as much offensively. domi is a question mark, but a question mark loaded with potential. lindgren and andersen can be a very good combo for the leafs cause lindgren can steal u game often. but the lhd side is extremely weak for the habs. thats why i wouldnt trade mete. do u get where im going with this?


I saw Mete play in jrs and pros. Quite familar with him.

Your reasoning and logic is flawed.

There are times when team needs are factored in, most of the time actually. But when you win the trade by a landslide, you take it, team needs be damned.

Krug is 60 point dman, our left side pretty iffy. Chara is a statue these days. Moore is 3rd liner. Grezlyk is similar to Krug in stature and talent but nowhere near as productive and likely never will be. Some solid prospects who aren’t ready. So trading Krug would be costly to the team. Yet they would trade him for Panarin straight up without heistation if it was offered, it won’t be, because they are getting the better player. They would figure out how to fix left side later.

You act as if you are cup contender. You aren’t. Your 3rd center is not key piece when you are bottom third of the league team. Neither is anyone on this list outside of Mete. Take the better player. Crazy not to.
30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 21
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I saw Mete play in jrs and pros. Quite familar with him.

Your reasoning and logic is flawed.

There are times when team needs are factored in, most of the time actually. But when you win the trade by a landslide, you take it, team needs be damned.

Krug is 60 point dman, our left side pretty iffy. Chara is a statue these days. Moore is 3rd liner. Grezlyk is similar to Krug in stature and talent but nowhere near as productive and likely never will be. Some solid prospects who aren’t ready. So trading Krug would be costly to the team. Yet they would trade him for Panarin straight up without heistation if it was offered, it won’t be, because they are getting the better player. They will figure out how to fix side later.

You act as if you are cup contender. You aren’t. Your 3rd center is not key piece when you are bottom third of the league team. Neither is anyone on this list outside of Mete. Take the better player. Crazy not to.


wow bro. ur actually stupid. i tried to have a logical arguement with you, but ur just too dumb. cheers.
30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 25
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wow bro. ur actually stupid. i tried to have a logical arguement with you, but ur just too dumb. cheers.


The ******* irony of this.... wow... How dense are you?
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wow bro. ur actually stupid. i tried to have a logical arguement with you, but ur just too dumb. cheers.


Lol, right. I‘ve seen your posts before. You are usually just as way off as you are on this. Mostly suffering from homeritis. Have a good one.
30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 28
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The ******* irony of this.... wow... How dense are you?


says the guy with kadri as his profile pic...
30 sept. 2018 à 15 h 29
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The ******* irony of this.... wow... How dense are you?


You can’t fix stupid right? I tried. Was dumb to consider it. You know what they say, never play chess with a pigeon, no matter what happens they just ? on the board and strut around like they won.
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