GM GAME V3 CGY
Équipe: 2018-19 Flames de Calgary
Date de création initiale: 17 sept. 2018
Publié: 17 sept. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description 2018/19 CALGARY FLAMES (est 1980)
Home Arena: Scotiabank Saddledome (Built in 1983) Previous home rink Stampede Corral (Completed in 1950)
Owner(s): A bunch of rich guys (but clearly not rich enough to build us a new arena)
General Manager: ME (or Brad Treliving, depends who you ask)
Head Coach: Bill Peters
Asst. Coaches: Ryan Huska + Geoff Ward + Martin "The Eliminator" Gelinas
AHL Affiliate: Stockton Heat
ECHL Affiliate: Kansas City Mavericks
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2019 NHL Entry Draft
Rd 1. CGY (own pick) + CGY via DAL
Rd 2. CGY via MIN
Rd 3.
Rd 4. CGY (own pick) + CGY via DAL
Rd 5. CGY via LAK
Rd 6. CGY via FLA
Rd 7. CGY (own pick) + CGY via CBJ + CGY via WPG
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CONTRACTS : 47 / 50 with 1 exempt (so 46/50)
RESERVE LIST : 58 / 90
50 Exempt Players
Jacob Lauko
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TRADE CENTRAL
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Offseason - 0/16 (May 8 - Aug 31)
September - 0/4
October - 0/4
November - 0/4
December - 0/4
January - 0/4
February - 0/4
March - 0/8
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WAIVER CLAIMS AWARDED
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October 0/2
November 0/2
December 0/2
January 0/2
February 0/2
March 0/2
April 0/2
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Players with NMC and need to be protected in expansion
Johnny Boychuk (been told he has to be protected because we're using PRE July 1st contract terms)
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CURRENT UNTOUCHABLES
#19 Matthew Tkachuk
#8 Jusso Valimaki
#4 Rasmus Andersson
#33 David Rittich
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TRADE BLOCK
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Feel free to inquire about ANYONE on the roster or in the system with exception to the names listed above.
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PLAYER RIGHTS OWNED
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Adam Ruzicka, 18 C, RW Sudbury Wolves OHL (June 1, 2019) OHL STATS = 64GP 35G 41A = 76pts (as of Mar 17)
Kyle Olson, 19 Tri-City Americans (June 1, 2019)
Nico Gross 18 LD Oshawa Generals OHL (June 1, 2020)
Cameron Hillis 18 C Guelph Storm OHL (June 1, 2020)
Zach Fischer, 20 RW Kansas City Mavericks ECHL June 1, 2019)
Mitchell Mattson, 20 C NCAA Michigan State Univ. (Aug 15, 2022)
Eetu Luostarinen 19 C KalPa Liiga Swedish League ( June 1, 2021)
Pavel Karnaukhov, 21 LW, C CSKA Moskva (Indefinite)
Linus Lindström, 20 C BIK Karlskoga (June 1, 2020)
Rushan Rafikov, 22 D Lokomotiv Yaroslavl (Indefinite)
Eetu Tuulola, 20 RW HPK Liiga (June 1, 2020)
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Player signings with contracts starting in 2019/20
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Luke Philp 23 C 2yrs x 925K contract to start in 2019/20 season
Grant Hutton 23 RD 1yr x 925K contract to start in 2019/20 season
Artyom Zagidulin 23 G 1yr x 925K contract to start next season
Mark Kastelic 20 C 2yrs x 850K contract to start next season
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Signatures de joueurs autonomes CRÉÉ ANS CAP HIT Jankowski, Mark
2 1 750 000 $ Rittich, David
1 950 000 $ Kulak, Brett
2 900 000 $ Shinkaruk, Hunter
2 900 000 $ Klimchuk, Morgan
2 900 000 $ Gillies, Jon
1 800 000 $ Hathaway, Garnett
2 750 000 $ Pulock, Ryan
7 3 500 000 $ Prout, Dalton
3 900 000 $ Gibson, Christopher
4 800 000 $ Wotherspoon, Tyler
2 850 000 $ Hendricks, Matt C LW
1 675 000 $ Ennis, Tyler CLWRW 1yr
1 2 300 000 $ Jimmy, Hayes 1yr RW
1 675 000 $ Hayes, Kevin 4yrs C
4 4 750 000 $ Holden, Nick 1yr
1 1 500 000 $ Holden, Nick RD - 2yrs
2 1 500 000 $ Quine, Alan C 2yrs
2 850 000 $ Hickey, Thomas 7 long yrs LD
7 5 000 000 $ Hathaway, Garnett 2 yrs
2 750 000 $ Smith, Mike G 1yr
1 4 250 000 $ Reinhart, Sam 8yrs x 45M
8 4 500 000 $ Monahan, Sean 5yrs
5 6 375 000 $ Bennett, Sam 1yr RFA
1 1 950 000 $ Anthony 2yrs LWRW, Duclair
2 1 200 000 $ Duclair 2yrs, Anthony
2 1 200 000 $ Duclair, Anthony 2yrs
2 1 200 000 $ Reaves, Ryan 5yrs
5 900 000 $ Nyquist, Gustav LWRW 1yr UFA
1 1 575 000 $
Transactions 1.
Ryan O'Reilly
2019 2nd (BUF)
Dougie Hamilton
Adam Fox
2018 6th (CGY)
2.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BUF) Détails additionnels:
JUST GETTING THE ICON FROM PREVIOUS TRADE
3.
Tyler Toffoli
2018 1st (LAK)
4.
RFA - Kevin Hayes
2018 3rd (NYR)
5.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (FLA)
6.
7.
Mantha , RyanChoix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM) Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
8.
Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (PHI)
9.
10.
11.
Tyler Ennis (50% ret)
2019 2nd (LAK)
12.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (LAK) Détails additionnels:
From above trade
13.
Rinne , Pekka (2 100 000 $ retained)Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NSH) Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (COL)
14.
15.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (DET) Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (DET) Détails additionnels:
2019 2nd (MIN)
C - Victor Rask
Monahan , SeanChoix de 7e ronde en 2019 (CAR) Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (PHI) Choix de 7e ronde en 2020 (CGY)
16.
17.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MIN) Détails additionnels:
From above DET trade
18.
19.
20.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (WSH) Détails additionnels:
From above ARI trade
21.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CAR) Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR) Détails additionnels:
Vladimir Sobotka
Unsigned prospect DAVID COTTON
unsigned prospect EETU LOUSTARINEN
22.
23.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (WSH) Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (COL) Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
24.
25.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CGY) Détails additionnels:
I OWN THIS PICK IN GAME
26.
Rights to D'Artagnan Joly
27.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (OTT) Détails additionnels:
From above trade for Joly
28.
Kulak , BrettDétails additionnels:
Removing from the roster as he was previously traded
29.
Prout , DaltonDétails additionnels:
Removing from roster as he was signed in game to a different cap hit
30.
Rittich , DavidDétails additionnels:
Removing as in game contract is different
31.
Removing players who I do not have in our game.
Czarnik , AustinGillies , JonGraovac , TylerHanifin , NoahJankowski , MarkLindholm , EliasNeal , JamesPeluso , AnthonyQuine , AlanRobinson , BuddyRyan , DerekRychel , Kerby
32.
Removing due to incorrect contract details in game
33.
Removing due to incorrect contract details in game
34.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (OTT) Détails additionnels:
This counts as TRADE #1 for Oct 2018
35.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CGY) Choix de 6e ronde en 2021 (CGY) Détails additionnels:
This counts as Trade #2 for Oct 2018
36.
Acquired in the above trade with Arizona.
37.
38.
Holden , Nick 1yrDétails additionnels:
i HAD TO CORRECT A PLAYER FOR IMPROPER INFO
39.
Klimchuk , MorganDétails additionnels:
Claimed off Waivers
40.
41.
Alan Quine
**WAIVER CLAIM**
But since you can't trade with your own team, this is to simply show him being acquired by me.
42.
Hathaway , GarnettDétails additionnels:
Claimed off Waivers
43.
44.
Part of the trade with Nashville
45.
Irwin , MattDétails additionnels:
Re-claimed by NSH from waivers
46.
Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (CGY) Détails additionnels:
Thomas Hickey
'19 6th FLA
'20 6th SJS
47.
Choix de 6e ronde en 2019 (FLA) Détails additionnels:
Ottawa deal
48.
Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
49.
Garnett Hathaway
**Re-claimed off waivers**
50.
Choix de 5e ronde en 2020 (MIN) Détails additionnels:
2020 4th (EDM)
51.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM) Détails additionnels:
Part of the deal with MIN
52.
Methot , MarcDétails additionnels:
CLAIMED OFF WAIVERS BABY!!!!!!!!!!!
53.
54.
55.
Smith , Mike G 1yrDétails additionnels:
Trade Revision
56.
Lewis , TrevorDétails additionnels:
WAIVER CLAIM 1 of 2 for November
57.
Nico Gross
2019 5th (FLA)
Filip Sveningsson
**Minor deal doesn't count towards the limit**
58.
Ehliz , YasinDétails additionnels:
Removing a deleted player who is no longer under NHL contract
59.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (SJS) Détails additionnels:
Sam Reinhart (8x$4.5M)
2020 3rd (SJS)
60.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (SJS) Détails additionnels:
Part of the trade with BUF
61.
Hintz , RoopeChoix de 1e ronde en 2019 (SJS) Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MIN) Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (CAR)
62.
Markström , JacobChoix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM) Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (MIN) Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
63.
Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (NYI) Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (NYI) Détails additionnels:
Sam Bennett
Jakub Lauko (unsigned prospect)
64.
65.
Brayden McNabb
Matt Nieto
66.
Nieto , MattDétails additionnels:
Piece of the OTT trade
Jan 1, 2019
67.
68.
Derek Stepan
Anthony Duclair
2019 5th (LAK)
69.
Stepan , DerekDétails additionnels:
Piece of the CBJ trade
Jan 4, 2019
70.
Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (LAK) Détails additionnels:
Piece of the CBJ trade
Jan 4, 2019
71.
Anthony 2yrs LWRW , DuclairDétails additionnels:
Needed to recreate properly
72.
Duclair 2yrs , AnthonyDétails additionnels:
I can't do anything right it eems. Recreating again
73.
Anthony Beauvillier
J.T. Compher
74.
Compher , J.T.Détails additionnels:
Piece of the trade with CAR
Jan 18, 2019
75.
76.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CAR) Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
77.
Khudobin , AntonDétails additionnels:
Piece of the trade with BOS
Jan 22, 2019
78.
Gibson , ChristopherDétails additionnels:
Was supposed to be included in the original trade which I missed when posting.
79.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CGY) Choix de 5e ronde en 2019 (NYI)
80.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (DET) Détails additionnels:
Sean Durzi
81.
Antti Raanta
Alex Stalock
2019 7th CBJ
2019 7th WPG
82.
Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
83.
Choix de 7e ronde en 2019 (WPG) Détails additionnels:
Icon Grab for trade with CBJ
84.
85.
86.
Erik Karlsson
Jay Bouwmeester 25% retained
Kyle Olson
Pulock , RyanStalock , AlexChoix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CGY) Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BUF) Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (DAL) Détails additionnels:
David Cotton
87.
88.
89.
Reaves , Ryan 5yrsDétails additionnels:
Adjusting for proper contract so people will leave me alone and I follow the rules
90.
Reaves , RyanDétails additionnels:
Adopting proper contract to be rule compliant
91.
92.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (SJS)
93.
94.
95.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (DAL) Détails additionnels:
Pick acquired in trade with NYI
96.
Wilcox , AdamDétails additionnels:
Cam Hillis (player rights)
2019 2nd rd pick (MIN)
2020 3rd rd pick (SJS)
97.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MIN) Détails additionnels:
Pick acquired in the trade with BUF
98.
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (SJS) Détails additionnels:
Pick acquired int he trade with BUF
99.
100.
101.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (NJD) Détails additionnels:
Jake "The Snake" Gardiner
2019 2nd (NYI)
2019 4th (CAR)
2020 2nd (VAN)
102.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (VAN) Détails additionnels:
Acquired in trade with NJD
103.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CAR) Détails additionnels:
Acquired in trade with NJD
104.
Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (NYI) Détails additionnels:
Acquired in trade with NJD
105.
Gardiner , Jake (1 050 000 $ retained)Détails additionnels:
Acquired in trade with NJD
Salary retention from previous in game trades.
106.
Hutton , Grant [Droits de RFA] Détails additionnels:
Signed as College Free Agent
107.
Gustav Nyquist
In game cap hit of $1,575,000
108.
Jost , TysonDétails additionnels:
2019 1st (DAL)
2019 4th (CGY)
109.
Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (DAL) Détails additionnels:
Pick acquired in trade with Colorado
110.
Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CGY) Détails additionnels:
Pick acquired in trade with Colorado
111.
Hathaway , Garnett 2 yrsChoix de 4e ronde en 2019 (CAR)
112.
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage 1e ronde 2e ronde 3e ronde 4e ronde 5e ronde 6e ronde 7e ronde 2018 2019 2020 2021
TAILLE DE LA FORMATION PLAFOND SALARIAL CAP HIT EXCÉDENTS BONIS ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL 23 80 000 000 $ 58 394 643 $ 0 $ 2 110 000 $ 21 605 357 $
Ailier gauche Centre Ailier droit 925 000 $ 925 000 $ (850 000 $ $850K ) AD
UFA - 1
811 667 $ 811 667 $ (157 500 $ $158K ) C
UFA - 2
Nyquist, Gustav LWRW 1yr UFA
1 575 000 $ 1 575 000 $
3 750 000 $ 3 750 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
6 500 000 $ 6 500 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 3
925 000 $ 925 000 $ (100 000 $ $100K ) C, AD
UFA - 1
Duclair, Anthony 2yrs
1 200 000 $ 1 200 000 $
885 833 $ 885 833 $ (850 000 $ $850K ) C
UFA - 2
2 100 000 $ 2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
705 000 $ 705 000 $ (70 000 $ $70K ) AD, AG
UFA - 1
Bennett, Sam 1yr RFA
1 950 000 $ 1 950 000 $
2 775 000 $ 2 775 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucher Défenseur droitier Gardien de but 2 500 000 $ 2 500 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
2 750 000 $ 2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Rittich, David
950 000 $ 950 000 $
3 000 000 $ 3 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
755 833 $ 755 833 $ (82 500 $ $82K ) DD
UFA - 2
Gillies, Jon
800 000 $ 800 000 $
Hickey, Thomas 7 long yrs LD
5 000 000 $ 5 000 000 $
6 000 000 $ 6 000 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Laissés de côté Liste des blessés (IR) Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR) 2 000 000 $ 2 000 000 $
AD, C
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $ 5 500 000 $
AG
NTC
UFA - 5
1 750 000 $ 1 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
3 500 000 $ 3 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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Quoting: flamesfan419
Counting 2018/19, that's 4 years of not being able to move him again after acquiring him. So yeah, that is the definition of a "bad contract".
I mean he will turn 37 at the end of the NMC phase, so I'm sure there will be high demand for a 37yr old Dman being paid $6.875M for another 2 years after that.
But I'm always open to discussion, so I'd be happy to take him off your hands, I just doubt you're actually prepared to pay the price for that to happen....cause it wouldn't be cheap.
Send me a message on twitter of what it would cost.
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Are any of Tkachuk, Hayes, Krug, Pulock available?
13 nov. 2018 à 21 h 10
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Quoting: GronkNation
Are any of Tkachuk, Hayes, Krug, Pulock available?
Hayes is definitely available.
Krug was in talks today but no answer from the other team if they want everything they asked for which I agreed to.
Pulock would really need something to change my mind.
Tkachuk, my only true untouchable.
13 nov. 2018 à 21 h 13
#54
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Quoting: flamesfan419
Hayes is definitely available.
Krug was in talks today but no answer from the other team if they want everything they asked for which I agreed to.
Pulock would really need something to change my mind.
Tkachuk, my only true untouchable.
What would you be looking for for the 3 non-Tkachuk guys
13 nov. 2018 à 21 h 38
#55
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Quoting: GronkNation
What would you be looking for for the 3 non-Tkachuk guys
Sent you a list of names via twitter
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What for werenski tkachuk from Nashville
18 nov. 2018 à 14 h 47
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Quoting: Math
What for werenski tkachuk from Nashville
Sadly neither of them are available right now.
Tkachuk will likely never become available.
18 nov. 2018 à 18 h 19
#58
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Quoting: flamesfan419
Sadly neither of them are available right now.
Tkachuk will likely never become available.
This is a good GM skill.
Not trading away key cornerstone pieces, because they are fan favourites.
Cough cough not like Vancouver Elias Pettersson and VIRTANEN cough cough
18 nov. 2018 à 19 h 18
#59
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Quoting: TMLSage
This is a good GM skill.
Not trading away key cornerstone pieces, because they are fan favourites.
Cough cough not like Vancouver Elias Pettersson and VIRTANEN cough cough
Not like Toews cough cough
18 nov. 2018 à 20 h 10
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Quoting: Gronk
Not like Toews cough cough
Not like Kopitar cough cough
18 nov. 2018 à 20 h 15
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Quoting: BoltsPoint21
Not like Kopitar cough cough
But look at my return compared to the other cough cough
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Quoting: TMLSage
This is a good GM skill.
Not trading away key cornerstone pieces, because they are fan favourites.
Cough cough not like Vancouver Elias Pettersson and VIRTANEN cough cough
Quoting: Gronk
Not like Toews cough cough
Quoting: BoltsPoint21
Not like Kopitar cough cough
Quoting: Gronk
But look at my return compared to the other cough cough
All this coughing, no wonder I've been sick for the last week
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Quoting: flamesfan419
All this coughing, no wonder I've been sick for the last week
Never mind the coughing, I just gave you a virus
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Quoting: Gronk
Never mind the coughing, I just gave you a virus
lmfao
Ask Max for some soup recipes.
He always has the best.
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Quoting: TMLSage
lmfao
Ask Max for some soup recipes.
He always has the best.
@Max can you make me some Borscht?
19 nov. 2018 à 10 h 49
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Quoting: Gronk
@Max can you make me some Borscht?
Whats in it for me
19 nov. 2018 à 10 h 54
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Quoting: Max
Whats in it for me
My chocolate torte recipe
19 nov. 2018 à 11 h 47
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Quoting: TMLSage
My chocolate torte recipe
Not worth it
19 nov. 2018 à 11 h 54
#69
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Quoting: Max
Whats in it for me
What is it that you want
19 nov. 2018 à 16 h 57
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Quoting: Gronk
What is it that you want
I know what he wants
19 nov. 2018 à 17 h 56
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Quoting: Mr_cap
I know what he wants
Then give it to him. I'm sick and need my Borscht
19 nov. 2018 à 18 h 19
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Quoting: Gronk
Then give it to him. I'm sick and need my Borscht
I have a good borscht recipe if you want it.
19 nov. 2018 à 18 h 40
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Quoting: TMLSage
I have a good borscht recipe if you want it.
I need my boy Max’s recipe. It’s the only way
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I'd do Bennett+ for Backlund/Reinhart (the + would be pretty big)
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Quoting: rangersandislesfan
I'd do Bennett+ for Backlund/Reinhart (the + would be pretty big)
Whoa whoa whoa, does your mother know you talk like that
So let's say it was Backlund....how "pretty big" are you willing to go with that add??