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Trade Gards (get Karlsson for fun)

Créé par: MattyMadden28
Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 15 août 2018
Publié: 15 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Gotta move Jake. As good as he is, if the right deal was available, you’d have to consider it. What do you think you’d get for him. If Dmen are such a premium asset he’d get a bunch in return even as a ufa. Yes he makes the team better this year. Yes the Leafs D are weaker then it’s forward group. And yes he’s probably the best Dman on the team. But this team is going to go on a run for the next 7 years getting a 1st in a strong draft with a decent roster D or/and a prospect plus whatever makes the deal, could contribute on the cheap in the heart of those 7yrs. Trading him to say Chicago who may feel there window is closing and take a chance by adding some mobility to there back end. They even have the cap to sign him to. So Gards to Chicago for say their 2019 1st, 2020 2nd (condition of resigning) and Jokiharju (29th 2017). The First could easily be a 20-25 pick or a top 10 depending on how Chicago bounces back next year. And the young RHD in Joki would give the leafs a potential cheap RHD puck mover. The young core of Rielly Dermott Borgman Rosen Liljegren Sandin and Jokiharju would be solid and cheap enough in the heart of the next 7 years.

Now
Rielly Carrick
Dermott Zaitsev
Borgman Hainsey

Potentially
Dermott Rielly
Sandin Jokiharju
Borgman Liljegren
Rosen Zaitsev

Now I’m not saying trading Jake is a slam dunk move. There is risk. Trading one year of Jake Gardiner on a contender for potential doesn’t always work out but it’s a risk I’d take with the depth of LHD, Jakes likely next contract and the potential to add a cheap RHD asset plus potentially good picks for the next 7yrs
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
86 750 000 $
Transactions
1.
TOR
  1. Jokiharju, Henri
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CHI)
CHI
  1. Gardiner, Jake
Détails additionnels:
2nd condition on re-signing
2.
TOR
  1. Karlsson, Erik
OTT
  1. Brown, Connor
  2. Liljegren, Timothy
  3. Rosén, Calle
  4. Zaitsev, Nikita
  5. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2479 500 000 $71 700 833 $2 550 000 $6 432 500 $7 799 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Hyman, Zach
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
Tavares, John
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
Marner, Mitchell
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
Marleau, Patrick
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
Matthews, Auston
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
Nylander, William
6 750 000 $6 750 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Johnsson, Andreas
787 500 $787 500 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Kadri, Nazem
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
Kapanen, Kasperi
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
Leivo, Josh
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Lindholm, Pär
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
Ennis, Tyler
650 000 $650 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Marchment, Mason
767 500 $767 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Horton, Nathan
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Borgman, Andreas
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DG
UFA - 1
Karlsson, Erik
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Andersen, Frederik
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
Dermott, Travis
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
Rielly, Morgan
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
McElhinney, Curtis
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Hainsey, Ron
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Marincin, Martin
800 000 $800 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Carrick, Connor
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Ozhiganov, Igor
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 1

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15 août 2018 à 13 h 41
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Chicago laughs and hangs the phone
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15 août 2018 à 13 h 43
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15 août 2018 à 13 h 44
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Quoting: SammyT_51
Chicago laughs and hangs the phone


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Why. Is a top pair D not worth a late first prospect D and first on a potentially good team?
15 août 2018 à 13 h 48
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The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.
15 août 2018 à 13 h 50
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Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?
15 août 2018 à 13 h 51
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The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.


Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?
15 août 2018 à 13 h 52
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The problem is that Chicago does need defensive defenders not pure offensive guys like Gardiner who would get 6+mil extension in 1yr. Next thing is that 2019 1st rounder for chicago would be likely top-10 pick and they would not give up that for Gards.


If that is your only reason then find a team that needs that form of defense. Florida comes to mind.
15 août 2018 à 13 h 53
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Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?


Have they got someone big on 1yr deals they could deal? Most of their big guys are on 2,3 or more yrs deals
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If that is your only reason then find a team that needs that form of defense. Florida comes to mind.


I was thinking about that. But what we would take on?
15 août 2018 à 13 h 57
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I'd never make that trade as CHI. I think they're a bottom 10 team this year, especially playing in the division that they do. Give up your best d prospect and an early first for a guy you will have for a year and then he walks? Or throw in a second and you keep a dman they can't afford and is very one-dimensional? Doesn't make sense to me.
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15 août 2018 à 13 h 59
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Ok. Fair enough. So if you think Chicago is destined for the basement should they trade there big guys? Should probably get value for them during the rebuild? No?


They just don't have very many guys who can be traded. Kane and Toews will have statues in front of the United Center, Keith will be hanging from the rafters, Seabrook's contract is unmovable. The only guys they can trade are Anisimov, Murphy, and Rutta which they will likely deal at the deadline if they aren't in contention. Our first round pick isn't in play until they're in contention.
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Defends team in explanation with “this team is going to go on a run for 7 years” and then trades away best prospects on defence... *palm hits face*. Thankfully he doesn’t know how good Ozhiganov is going to be or I’m sure he would have put him on the block with our future of prospects and a first rounder...
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Quoting: SammyT_51
I was thinking about that. But what we would take on?


Wow, lol. I didn't even think of that part. Touche. I feel silly.
15 août 2018 à 15 h 24
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Why would the Hawks give up so much for a young rental. Why do the Leafs gut it's future for a one year rental?
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Why would the Hawks give up so much for a young rental. Why do the Leafs gut it's future for a one year rental?


I get it. You don’t like rental trades.
16 août 2018 à 12 h 23
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I get it. You don’t like rental trades.


No, I rental trades are OK to the right teams. But there is this obsession that rentals should get full long term playing value in trades.
 
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