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Créé par: The_Architect
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 9 août 2018
Publié: 9 août 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
MTL
  1. Moulson, Matt
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (SJS)
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (STL)
BUF
  1. Weber, Shea
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (MTL)
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2020
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2679 500 000 $68 380 832 $0 $2 032 500 $11 119 168 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
C
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
UFA - 2
748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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9 août 2018 à 22 h 14
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9 août 2018 à 23 h 10
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Quoting: littlejerryseinfeld
No thank you


I'm surprised he said thank you as if that offer isn't a complete slap in the face lol
9 août 2018 à 23 h 22
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I'm surprised he said thank you as if that offer isn't a complete slap in the face lol


He's a classy guy
9 août 2018 à 23 h 50
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I don't think buffalo would do this trade due to the term left on webers contract
10 août 2018 à 0 h 20
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The reason many of these, I'll say silly trades never happen. In this case the Sabres can spend 7.8m (Weber's salary) on a UFA....even it's an overpay and still keep the two draft picks.
10 août 2018 à 1 h 2
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Modifié 10 août 2018 à 1 h 9
Quoting: palhal
The reason many of these, I'll say silly trades never happen. In this case the Sabres can spend 7.8m (Weber's salary) on a UFA....even it's an overpay and still keep the two draft picks.


You say this cause you think Weber is scrap. I say he still good and can put up 15 goals 35 assists if he was playing for a half decent team instead of the Habs. The only UFA worth going after is EK. Unfortunately he won't go to BUF. Ryan Ellis will get resigned by NSH (which means BUF could give those 2 1st rndrs to Poile for PK, instead of trading for Weber. But perhaps PK's reputation of allegedly being a cancer in the room will make teams think twice) . So the only other decent UFA RD option is Tyler Myers.
10 août 2018 à 7 h 39
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You say this cause you think Weber is scrap. I say he still good and can put up 15 goals 35 assists if he was playing for a half decent team instead of the Habs. The only UFA worth going after is EK. Unfortunately he won't go to BUF. Ryan Ellis will get resigned by NSH (which means BUF could give those 2 1st rndrs to Poile for PK, instead of trading for Weber. But perhaps PK's reputation of allegedly being a cancer in the room will make teams think twice) . So the only other decent UFA RD option is Tyler Myers.


I didn't say Weber was scrap, but Sabres could spend 7.8 on UFA and keep their picks. This is one reason that many high priced players don't be traded. Teams would spend money on "their guys" and keep those young assets in the trade. Weber could be traded but it won't be for just picks, money would have to returned to the Habs. Probably one reason Karlsson hasn't been traded. Teams have to sent long term money back to the Sens for any hope of resigning Karlsson. Sure Ellis might resign Nashville but I don't know why you think it's a lock. Ellis is from Hamilton, and if home means anything (I think it's overrated) maybe the Sabres or Leafs could be in the running too. Sabres have two RHD Ristolainen and Bogosian, so it's not like a non playoff team is begging for another.
If Weber is traded it almost has to be a team that thinks Weber put them "over the top". But most teams are near the cap and really can't take on his 7.8m contract even short term. And yes Weber's 7.8m nine years left is a big detriment for any team. Canadiens and Sabres are somewhat is the position...out of the playoffs and the do have pieces in place for their rebuild. Why do you think Weber would be so valuable to the Sabres and not to the Canadiens?
10 août 2018 à 8 h 17
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I didn't say Weber was scrap, but Sabres could spend 7.8 on UFA and keep their picks. This is one reason that many high priced players don't be traded. Teams would spend money on "their guys" and keep those young assets in the trade. Weber could be traded but it won't be for just picks, money would have to returned to the Habs. Probably one reason Karlsson hasn't been traded. Teams have to sent long term money back to the Sens for any hope of resigning Karlsson. Sure Ellis might resign Nashville but I don't know why you think it's a lock. Ellis is from Hamilton, and if home means anything (I think it's overrated) maybe the Sabres or Leafs could be in the running too. Sabres have two RHD Ristolainen and Bogosian, so it's not like a non playoff team is begging for another.
If Weber is traded it almost has to be a team that thinks Weber put them "over the top". But most teams are near the cap and really can't take on his 7.8m contract even short term. And yes Weber's 7.8m nine years left is a big detriment for any team. Canadiens and Sabres are somewhat is the position...out of the playoffs and the do have pieces in place for their rebuild. Why do you think Weber would be so valuable to the Sabres and not to the Canadiens?


Buffalo might be the one place in the NHL that has a harder UFA sell than Montreal.

I don't like this trade at all. Say what you will about Weber, last year was the first year in which he missed considerable action. Even then, playing on a bad ankle, he managed 16 points in 26 games. Taken out over a full season, that's 51 points. That's not washed up by any measure.

The only reason for BUFF to do this trade is because they want Dahlen mentored and protected by one of the better RDs in the game. For the same reason, I don't know why MTL would do this deal. Mete and Juulsen need mentoring now. Coming up the pipe are a few more solid D prospects. Even when Larry Robinson slowed down a bit, he and Rick Green had huge roles in developing Chris Chelios, Jyrki Lumme, Petr Svoboda, Mathieu Schneider and Eric Desjardins. Only Svoboda was a first-rounder in that group, which meant there was a lot of good on-ice schooling that went into getting the other guys up to Norris-contender status.
10 août 2018 à 9 h 12
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Buffalo might be the one place in the NHL that has a harder UFA sell than Montreal.

I don't like this trade at all. Say what you will about Weber, last year was the first year in which he missed considerable action. Even then, playing on a bad ankle, he managed 16 points in 26 games. Taken out over a full season, that's 51 points. That's not washed up by any measure.

The only reason for BUFF to do this trade is because they want Dahlen mentored and protected by one of the better RDs in the game. For the same reason, I don't know why MTL would do this deal. Mete and Juulsen need mentoring now. Coming up the pipe are a few more solid D prospects. Even when Larry Robinson slowed down a bit, he and Rick Green had huge roles in developing Chris Chelios, Jyrki Lumme, Petr Svoboda, Mathieu Schneider and Eric Desjardins. Only Svoboda was a first-rounder in that group, which meant there was a lot of good on-ice schooling that went into getting the other guys up to Norris-contender status.


That's exactly my perspective on what type of value Weber would bring to BUF.

If we still had Segachev I'd keep Weber as a mentor. But now I just want the Habs to tank. Keeping Weber and Price would be risking MTL finishing in the middle of the pack and further away from a top 5 draft pick. I'm all in for the rebuild.
10 août 2018 à 9 h 26
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Quoting: palhal
I didn't say Weber was scrap, but Sabres could spend 7.8 on UFA and keep their picks. This is one reason that many high priced players don't be traded. Teams would spend money on "their guys" and keep those young assets in the trade. Weber could be traded but it won't be for just picks, money would have to returned to the Habs. Probably one reason Karlsson hasn't been traded. Teams have to sent long term money back to the Sens for any hope of resigning Karlsson. Sure Ellis might resign Nashville but I don't know why you think it's a lock. Ellis is from Hamilton, and if home means anything (I think it's overrated) maybe the Sabres or Leafs could be in the running too. Sabres have two RHD Ristolainen and Bogosian, so it's not like a non playoff team is begging for another.
If Weber is traded it almost has to be a team that thinks Weber put them "over the top". But most teams are near the cap and really can't take on his 7.8m contract even short term. And yes Weber's 7.8m nine years left is a big detriment for any team. Canadiens and Sabres are somewhat is the position...out of the playoffs and the do have pieces in place for their rebuild. Why do you think Weber would be so valuable to the Sabres and not to the Canadiens?


IMO the Sabres are better now with all the pieces they've brought in, than they were before the ROR trade. I do believe that Weber would bring a dimention that could bring them over the top.

Ellis as a FA would have the luxury of having a choice. I'd bet he'd want to stay in NSH 1st and foremost since they are cup contenders or sign with another contender. Unless BUF brings it this year and pulls a Colorado resurgence, they're probably far down his list right now.
 
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