Agreed.

Not close to enough for McDavid.

Its a Generational Franchise centre for a Generational franchise centre and a former 1st rounder. Anything more and its an over pay.

To be honest this trade would never happen but its the only scenario where trading Matthews makes sense. And its the only trade that would make sense for Edmonton if they wanted to move from McDavid to be honest. There aren't many generational franchise centres around the age of 20 currently.

Do you really think that trade would even go through? Edmonton would never do this.

Matthews has 132 points in 144 game sand 2 points in 7 playoff games.

Mcdavid has over a PPG in the NHL and had 9 points in 5 playoff games.

So you're trading Matthews who has Significant less points and a piece that hasn't proven anything yet for Mcdavid, over a PPG and actually shows up in the playoffs. I don't think you're remotely close to getting Mcdavid with this deal

Matthews isn't generational.

Matthews is a franchise player, no doubt though. It's just that their current ppgs in their career are very different (ehile McDavid plays on a considerably worse team). Not a knock on Matthews, just my view. Only generational guys in my view are McDavid, Crosby, Malkin, and Ovi. (I hate the Pens btw lol).

try matthews marner and a 1st

The kid is the best 5v5 goal scorer in the game. He scored the 2nd most 5v5 goals in the NHL last year while playing 20 games less than McDavid who finished 1st and only 4 goals ahead of Matthews.

Matthews is in the top 25 in the following categories.

Shot Generation
Shots getting through on net
Percent of shots being high danger scoring chances
And shooting percentage in high danger scoring chances.

What that means is he shoots more than just about everyone, he gets them through better than just about everyone, takes the shots in high danger areas more than just about everyone and scores more with those shots than just about everyone.

He'll win the rocket this year and be in the running for the Art Ross for the next 10 years. McDavid and Matthews are the new Crosby and Ovie.

You are right, Edmonton won't make this trade and neither will Toronto, why give up a young prospect and Matthews when Matthews is already sick!

My point is if ever Toronto wanted to trade Matthews or if Edmonton ever wanted to trade McDavid, the only trade that really makes sense is trade them for each other. Its the only scenario that makes sense.

That would be grossly unfair.

If so add Bouchard and 2nd from Edmonton to that trade.. that would be massive overpayment if Matthews, Marner and 1st for McDavid.. gosh

Yeah, and McDavid scored the most even strength points last year by a large amount , while also getting over 100 points while playing on the team with the worst pp in the league. I'm sorry but McDavid is on a level of his own. He really has no major competition currently.

that would be my price. I know that is insane overpayment by Toronto but your gonna have to over pay ALOT to take connor away from edm

i wouldn't do marner for bouchard 1 for 1 just because of Edmontons needs

LOL @ Matthews being generational. Simmer down.

McDavid has insane speed and can do so many things with that speed, this is true. He puts up ridiculous points as well. What he isn't the best at is shutting guys down. He's not bad at it, Matthews though is better. They are slightly different, kind of like the difference between Patrick Kane and Sydney Crosby (not quite as pronounced as those two), Kane is the ultra high end offensive guy but not the best defensively while Crosby is still extremely elite offensively but he's better defensively.

Both amazing players and it will be fun to watch them in the future. Hopefully Edmonton can get rid of their entire management team and actually put together a winning team, otherwise McDavid is going to request a trade before too long because his prime years will be wasted with the club at its current makeup.

You are a Boston fan so that means anyone who plays for Toronto is terrible, with only Montreal players being worse. This is the case no matter which player we'd be talking about. Matthews will be better than anyone on Boston as early as this season and it won't be close.

Agreed, but it's on the right track. Neither team is interested in trading their stars so this will never happen, I think what @LoganOllivier is trying to say here is that he's sick of guys thinking they can get Matthews for 3 B-level players. You only trade an A+ player for another A+ player, basically.

Yeah and there is only one centre in the league of a comparable age that is at or above Matthews level and that is McDavid. I'd put Matthews a fair distance ahead of Eichel who is likely up there as well in value.

... still doesn't make sense...

No thanks, I'll keep Matthews
We can sign mcdavid for free after his deal (29)
He will come home like Tavares and help leafs to cup # 4 5 and 6 of this era

actually that puts Toronto in an even worse position cap wise so I don't think that makes sense either. Even if it didn't make that worse it doesn't make sense because there is no motivation to move a guy like that, trading one great and young center for another great and young center (who is also the second best player in the game even at that young of an age) forces both to relocate and possible throw them off their game. Although im sure McDavid would welcome the trade considering the mess that is the oilers team.

That's false. I can be objective. Please get out of here with these kind of takes. So because I'm from Boston, that means I don't get a say in anything? I don't hate Toronto, as a team. What I do hate, is the obnoxious fanbase....Huh, you're apart of it. Shocker. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to realize that Matthews is a great young player in the NHL, but far from generational.

You're a goof and likely think Bergeron is top 5 centres in the game and Marchand is the best winger in hockey. Your team is dust and will be going through a rebuild before too long.

How does one qualify as "generational"? What is the criteria?

The media have been calling him generational since his draft year. And just look at his impact! He scored 4 goals in his first game, is the best 5v5 goal scorer in the league at the age of 20 and has played his entire career with rookies in year 1 and 2nd year players in year two. He didn't have the greatest playoffs last year but he wasn't bad, he hit the post several times and just got unlucky a lot. If you are a 20 year old and you've been a better 5v5 offensive threat than Sydney Crosby, you're an elite franchise generational talent.