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Rebuilding - trades with CHI, EDM, WPG, VGK

Créé par: justaBoss
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 24 juill. 2018
Publié: 24 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Firing Bergevin and starting over
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
1700 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
1900 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Anisimov, Artem
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (CHI)
  3. Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CHI)
2.
MTL
  1. Klefbom, Oscar
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Anisimov, Artem
  2. Armia, Joel
  3. Reilly, Mike
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
3.
MTL
  1. Trouba, Jacob
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
WPG
  1. Byron, Paul
  2. Weber, Shea (2 357 143 $ retained)
4.
MTL
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (CBJ)
  2. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (NSH)
VGK
  1. Petry, Jeff (1 100 000 $ retained)
  2. Schlemko, David
Détails additionnels:
RFA Michael McCarron
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2019
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de CBJ
Logo de MTL
Logo de NSH
Logo de MTL
Logo de CGY
Logo de CHI
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
Logo de WPG
2020
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de WPG
Logo de MTL
Logo de CHI
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de EDM
Logo de MTL
2021
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
Logo de MTL
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2379 500 000 $59 713 308 $0 $4 532 500 $19 786 692 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 500 000 $$2M)
C
UFA - 3
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
3 083 333 $3 083 333 $
C
UFA - 3
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ (Bonis de performance1 250 000 $$1M)
C
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
900 000 $900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
900 000 $900 000 $
AD
UFA
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance425 000 $$425K)
DD
UFA - 2
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
700 000 $700 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1

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24 juill. 2018 à 22 h 44
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Why would the Jets ever make that deal.
If it was reversed Berg would make it in a heartbeat...
That is why they are where they are!
24 juill. 2018 à 22 h 48
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No one is taking Weber. If you seriously want to get rid of him, go Weber for Lucic with the Oilers and get prepared to give up an extra something.
24 juill. 2018 à 22 h 49
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Quoting: Giojohnny
Why would the Jets ever make that deal.
If it was reversed Berg would make it in a heartbeat...
That is why they are where they are!


Why not though? It seems that at the very point Trouba becomes an UFA he'll be leaving the Jets because he wants more money. With the salary retention, Weber will have cap hit of $5,5 million (same as Trouba), and he is clinched to a contract for many years. Also his actual salary is lowering over time, so in my opinion, it's not so far-fetched idea. Trouba will get more money in MTL since they have no problem paying out, and Jets get a very capable D for a long time.
24 juill. 2018 à 22 h 53
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No one is taking Weber. If you seriously want to get rid of him, go Weber for Lucic with the Oilers and get prepared to give up an extra something.


Don't think so. Weber can actually play (he just have to get healthy), and his actual salary is going lower over time.
24 juill. 2018 à 23 h 4
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Don't think so. Weber can actually play (he just have to get healthy), and his actual salary is going lower over time.


Shea Weber is 32. The cap just rose 6%. So assuming the cap rises about 6% give or take 1 or 2% which will likely be accurate given that Bettman has been decent at growing the revenue of this league. Do you seriously believe Shea Weber will defy every NHL player to come before him and not depreciate by more than 6% of his production and value per year over the next 7 years? Currently Weber commands a shade under 10% of the salary cap. At age 41 he will command at least 6% of the salary cap. Even with retained he will command a number that is at least higher than 4% of the salary cap.

Normally nasty contracts are referred to as Albatrosses. Weber is the Hindenburg.
24 juill. 2018 à 23 h 4
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Quoting: BurgerBoss
Don't think so. Weber can actually play (he just have to get healthy), and his actual salary is going lower over time.


which before his latest medical set back held weight.
right now no one will touch weber until minimum 1 full season after his injury so they can see if his play is effected
24 juill. 2018 à 23 h 6
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Shea Weber is 32. The cap just rose 6%. So assuming the cap rises about 6% give or take 1 or 2% which will likely be accurate given that Bettman has been decent at growing the revenue of this league. Do you seriously believe Shea Weber will defy every NHL player to come before him and not depreciate by more than 6% of his production and value per year over the next 7 years?


that's not true , not every player declines at that rate

Ray Whitney , Enough Said
24 juill. 2018 à 23 h 10
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Marc Bergiven could make better trades than this all of thes trades would be pure stupidity for any GM to accept. Why the heck would any teams accept this.
24 juill. 2018 à 23 h 17
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Quoting: Billy739
that's not true , not every player declines at that rate

Ray Whitney , Enough Said


Ray Whitney hit a career high in 06-07 as 15th season in the NHL. You always get outliers for every trend and statistic. Case in point Wheels. But generally you can show a good reason for outliers being the way they are, it's pretty rarely random, and very often can be logically explained. Wheels' late bloom, for example can be explained by him playing on the power play as the primary facilitator with three of the highest shooting percentage players in the NHL. More than half of his points come on the power play. He's good, an incredible captain, and I was pissed that he didn't win the Messier, but he's not good enough for the Hart buzz that he generated.

Ray Whitney's a little before my time, back when statistics were not as well recorded. I would be surprised if I could see his linemate's numbers and PDO and not give you a similar explanation.
25 juill. 2018 à 17 h 5
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Quoting: TheCelt
Ray Whitney hit a career high in 06-07 as 15th season in the NHL. You always get outliers for every trend and statistic. Case in point Wheels. But generally you can show a good reason for outliers being the way they are, it's pretty rarely random, and very often can be logically explained. Wheels' late bloom, for example can be explained by him playing on the power play as the primary facilitator with three of the highest shooting percentage players in the NHL. More than half of his points come on the power play. He's good, an incredible captain, and I was pissed that he didn't win the Messier, but he's not good enough for the Hart buzz that he generated.

Ray Whitney's a little before my time, back when statistics were not as well recorded. I would be surprised if I could see his linemate's numbers and PDO and not give you a similar explanation.


pretty sure i said ''enough said '' hahaha :P
 
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