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Realistic Tanev Trade?

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Équipe: 2018-19 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 4 juill. 2018
Publié: 4 juill. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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31 200 000 $
2700 000 $
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  1. Tanev, Christopher
  2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (VAN)
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  1. Bracco, Jeremy
  2. Carrick, Connor
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2179 500 000 $70 495 833 $2 550 000 $4 550 000 $9 004 167 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 1
6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 7
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG, C
UFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
700 000 $700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 4
4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 050 000 $4 050 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 6
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 2
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 2

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4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 15
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I'll never understand the infatuation with a player that struggles to play 3/4 of a season. A 1st round pick?
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 15
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Canucks fan here, I'd want more prospects or picks in this deal
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 16
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I'll never understand the infatuation with a player that struggles to play 3/4 of a season. A 1st round pick?


best defensive defenceman in the league that is R-Handed
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 18
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best defensive defenceman in the league that is R-Handed


Bold statement. Why does Vancouver want to dump him if that's the case?
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4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 21
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Leafs would have to jettison a player next season to fit in Tanev and his 4.4m One reason why Gardiner won't be resigned by the Leafs. Leafs have Hainey and Zaitsev and I know they are hoping that Ozzy, Carrick, Holl maybe in Dermot is the other right side Dman. Part time Tanev probably isn't worth the aggravation to obtain.
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 26
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Leave Tanev in Vancouver. He has played in 64-70-69-53-42 games in the past 5 seasons... He is a bandaid. Value wise they would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him.
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 42
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Quoting: SirCharles
Leave Tanev in Vancouver. He has played in 64-70-69-53-42 games in the past 5 seasons... He is a bandaid. Value wise they would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him.


Quoting: SirCharles
Leave Tanev in Vancouver. He has played in 64-70-69-53-42 games in the past 5 seasons... He is a bandaid. Value wise they would be lucky to get a 2nd rounder for him.


Well that would be a OK record in the "original six."
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4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 55
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Bold statement. Why does Vancouver want to dump him if that's the case?


We are rebuilding, his career will be wasted
4 juill. 2018 à 19 h 56
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tanev would be your guys 2nd best defenseman easily, and i think hes just gunna stay in vancouver. if people are gunna under value him like that, benning would be stupid to move him. lets say he plays a full season in toronto, benning is gunna kick himself for trading him
4 juill. 2018 à 20 h 0
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Quoting: jassan28
We are rebuilding, his career will be wasted


i think the canucks are coming to the end of the rebuild, but i do agree tanev will be about 31 when the nucks are in the playoffs
4 juill. 2018 à 20 h 25
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tanev would be your guys 2nd best defenseman easily, and i think hes just gunna stay in vancouver. if people are gunna under value him like that, benning would be stupid to move him. lets say he plays a full season in toronto, benning is gunna kick himself for trading him


I know it's subjective, but second best dman? Better than Reilly, and Gardiner?I question if he better than what Dermot was in his half season and or better than the hard minutes Hainsey played. Again he would play the right side where Zaitsev and Hainsey play. So he would be better than Carrick/Polak combo he replaces but at what cost? Best thing the Canucks can for in a trade, is have Tanev get healthy, play healthy and well and then he could be traded for optimism price at TDL.
But I do find these endless Tanev trades to the Leafs rather silly. Please can't Tanev be traded to any team but the Leafs Gee, it's a 31 team league.
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4 juill. 2018 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: jassan28
best defensive defenceman in the league that is R-Handed


Even IF that's true which it isn't.... it's kinda hard to call a player that can't play a full season the best at anything...
4 juill. 2018 à 21 h 16
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Quoting: jassan28
best defensive defenceman in the league that is R-Handed


Even IF that's true which it isn't.... it's kinda hard to call a player that can't play a full season the best at anything...
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4 juill. 2018 à 21 h 31
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Quoting: DJSums17
Even IF that's true which it isn't.... it's kinda hard to call a player that can't play a full season the best at anything...


I feel he doesn't have a reason to play so lets himself recover for long while's sort of like Price these past two years
4 juill. 2018 à 22 h 4
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Quoting: jassan28
We are rebuilding, his career will be wasted


It appears he beat you to it.
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4 juill. 2018 à 22 h 55
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I feel he doesn't have a reason to play so lets himself recover for long while's sort of like Price these past two years


Okay last question... why does Vancouver want Gardiner?
4 juill. 2018 à 23 h 0
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Okay last question... why does Vancouver want Gardiner?


Gardiner is proven to run a powerplay, put up 50+ points last season which the Canucks desperately need. Gardiner is a defensive liability though.
4 juill. 2018 à 23 h 3
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Chris Tanev is one of the best defensive dmen in this league. You can’t argue against that, and if you choose to do so, your opinion is irrelevant quite frankly. Injuries have hurt his value, but there’s no denying that either, but his play is still top-class in terms of shutting opposing top lines down. When healthy, that’s always the role he takes part in.

He’s better than all Leafs defenceman other than Reilly. Gardener can’t make a simple play in his own zone for his life (whereas that’s Tanev’s speciality). Hainsey is a good defensive dman but is in no way at Tanev’s level. Dermott is the only guy who maybe has a case here, but other than that there’s no one other than Reilly better at actually defending than Tanev.

The value for top pairing RHD aren’t cheap in today’s market, so there’s no way despite the injuries that Tanev is worth a 2nd or any less. A realistic asking price is a 1st or 2nd + a prospect - one of Bracco or Nielsen let’s say.

As for the rebuilding Canucks comment, yes the Canucks aren’t nearly done a rebuild, but moving Tanev will help accelerate that; Tanev doesn’t have a place in the Canucks 5+ years down the road. And as for palhal’s comment regarding the Tanev trades only to the Leafs...our bad Sticking Out Tongue
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5 juill. 2018 à 11 h 19
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Quoting: jassan28
Gardiner is proven to run a powerplay, put up 50+ points last season which the Canucks desperately need. Gardiner is a defensive liability though.


That's where your wrong. He has been known to have a brain fart or whatever but since Babs has got here they have dropped DRAMATICALLY... He's great at defending the rush it's his net front and boards play that he needs to work on. If this summer he can get jacked and play tough then I have 0 reason to trade him. Cause I wouldn't mind pairings that looked like...

Gardiner-Rielly
Dermott-Zaitsev
Borgman-Hainsey
Then have Carrick and Marincin as 7th and 8th D respectively
5 juill. 2018 à 12 h 29
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Quoting: DJSums17
That's where your wrong. He has been known to have a brain fart or whatever but since Babs has got here they have dropped DRAMATICALLY... He's great at defending the rush it's his net front and boards play that he needs to work on. If this summer he can get jacked and play tough then I have 0 reason to trade him. Cause I wouldn't mind pairings that looked like...

Gardiner-Rielly
Dermott-Zaitsev
Borgman-Hainsey
Then have Carrick and Marincin as 7th and 8th D respectively


Why have Gardiner and Reilly on the same pairing, I definelty want to see Reilly and Hainsey at the top pairing as it gives insurance for the Leafs every night.
5 juill. 2018 à 14 h 25
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Quoting: jassan28
Why have Gardiner and Reilly on the same pairing, I definelty want to see Reilly and Hainsey at the top pairing as it gives insurance for the Leafs every night.


Why? Cause they are easily the Leafs 2 best defencemen.

Hainsey gets more time to rest by not being on the top pairing. And you still have the option of playing Rielly with Hainsey to close out games. It's not like I'm trading him just moving him down a pairing.
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