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EDM trade -filling both teams' needs

Créé par: MTLaveragefan
Équipe: 2018-19 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 28 juin 2018
Publié: 28 juin 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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EDM fans, take a breather before commenting, Nurse is not Karlsson, RNH is not crosby

EDM needs a RHD... we need a LHD -> so lets trade prospect (Juulsen is on ELC for 2 more years)

They need a scoring winger, we need a center -> patch is cheaper for this season.

then we sign a scorer (wHy dOn'T EDM sIgN a sCoReR - they don't have the cap space)
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RFAANSCAP HIT
43 000 000 $
43 400 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
57 000 000 $
21 200 000 $
Transactions
MTL
  1. Nugent-Hopkins, Ryan
Détails additionnels:
Nurse's rights
EDM
  1. Juulsen, Noah
  2. Pacioretty, Max
Détails additionnels:
conditional picks if Patch doesn't resign
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2479 500 000 $76 124 642 $0 $357 500 $3 375 358 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
7 000 000 $7 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 5
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AG, C
UFA - 3
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
839 166 $839 166 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 5
3 750 000 $3 750 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
650 000 $650 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C
UFA - 3
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance175 000 $$175K)
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 166 667 $1 166 667 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 200 000 $1 200 000 $
C
UFA - 1
950 000 $950 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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UFA - 2
7 857 143 $7 857 143 $
DD
UFA - 8
10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 8
725 000 $725 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
DD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
950 000 $950 000 $
G
UFA - 1
748 333 $748 333 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
DG
UFA - 2

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28 juin 2018 à 12 h 16
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I would rather give 7M to Neal than giving it to Patch. Neal brings that energy to a line
28 juin 2018 à 12 h 22
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Quoting: MTLaveragefan
I would rather give 7M to Neal than giving it to Patch. Neal brings that energy to a line


I would think RNH and Pacioretty would have near equal value after last season.
So then Juulsen for Nurse? That's a huge stretch.
Neal is probably a step down from Pacioretty as well.
28 juin 2018 à 12 h 28
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I would think RNH and Pacioretty would have near equal value after last season.
So then Juulsen for Nurse? That's a huge stretch.
Neal is probably a step down from Pacioretty as well.


damn, you are quick with the one star my friend,

One bad season out of the last 6... and RHN one good season out of the last 4... he scores 24 this year... and he is better than a 5 time 30+ goal scorer in his last 5 season (excluding this season and the lockout)

Sure Nurse is better than Juulsen... but he is 3 years older. Juulsen did great in his first half season with a dumpster fire team. Also, Nurse is looking for more $$ this season... money that EDM will have difficulty to spare in the following years. SURE, picks could be added, maybe a depth player. But the trade, in my opinion, is more than fair
28 juin 2018 à 12 h 29
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Max roster size is 23, you would need to cut one player.
28 juin 2018 à 12 h 32
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Max roster size is 23, you would need to cut one player.


I can slam dunk Froese back to the AHL if you want to be picky ahahha
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28 juin 2018 à 12 h 36
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damn, you are quick with the one star my friend,

One bad season out of the last 6... and RHN one good season out of the last 4... he scores 24 this year... and he is better than a 5 time 30+ goal scorer in his last 5 season (excluding this season and the lockout)

Sure Nurse is better than Juulsen... but he is 3 years older. Juulsen did great in his first half season with a dumpster fire team. Also, Nurse is looking for more $$ this season... money that EDM will have difficulty to spare in the following years. SURE, picks could be added, maybe a depth player. But the trade, in my opinion, is more than fair

One good season out of the last 4 and you want him as your number one center....?
28 juin 2018 à 12 h 46
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One bad season out of the last 6... and RHN one good season out of the last 4... he scores 24 this year... and he is better than a 5 time 30+ goal scorer in his last 5 season (excluding this season and the lockout)

Sure Nurse is better than Juulsen... but he is 3 years older. Juulsen did great in his first half season with a dumpster fire team. Also, Nurse is looking for more $$ this season... money that EDM will have difficulty to spare in the following years. SURE, picks could be added, maybe a depth player. But the trade, in my opinion, is more than fair


Something to remember regarding RNH vs Patches: ones a center. There is more positional value in a 25 year old #2C than a nigh 30 year old #1LW on an expiring deal. To me, those factors balance Nuge and Pacioretty rather well, and at most you've got a 3rd round pick going back either way (depending on who you ask).

The difference in age between Juulsen and Nurse is barely significant: you're talking about a 3 year difference when neither player is close to their prime. Nurse's establishment in the league combined with his RFA status (the team could easily bridge him under $3M this offseason btw) outweigh Juulsen's handedness and cost-effective ELC.

All signs point to Edmonton wanting to hang onto both of these players: RNH showed very well alongside McDavid in the back quarter of the season and at the WCs this summer. Nurse has been identified as a core piece by Chiarelli (Hall/Eberle weren't FWIW). You are going to have to pay through the nose to acquire these players strictly because Edmonton has no business moving them right now. They have a piece - admittedly less proven as a #1LW than Pacioretty - to fill the scoring spot and Bouchard falling to the Oilers invalidates any reason to acquire Juulsen. Evan has a much, much higher ceiling than Noah, and is probably close to his skillset right now even having not played a professional game.

In terms of value, you're close but shy by at least a 3rd going back to Edmonton. RNH and Patches, as explained above, are reasonably close in value. Nurse and Juulsen are not. If I was Oilers GM, I'd want at least a 3rd and our 5th back. A 2nd would suffice if you were more concerned about pick quantity than quality.
28 juin 2018 à 13 h 52
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Here are my adjustments.
Edt trade stays, I think it's completely fair.
You're about 500k and 1 year too much on the Danault resigning. Remember in 3 years, Poehling or Kotkaniemi is in there.
Move Drouin to left again.
Offer a protected 1st, a 2nd, Lekhs or Hudon, and McCarron to Buffalo for O'Reilly and a 2nd.
Forget Neal, too much don't need another LW.
Keep the Pleky signing.
Lines
Drouin, O'Reilly, Gallagher
Domi, RNH, Scherbak
Hudon/Leks, Danault, Byron
Deslauries,Pleks, JDL (or whoever)

Nurse, Weber
Alzner, Petry
Mete, Benn

Shaw on LTIR to start the season
Froese captains Laval
Sign Rachel
If there is a way, sign DeHaan?
28 juin 2018 à 13 h 57
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Well I like it patches is better than RNH and Nurse might be better than Juulson but plays ld and Juulson plays RD and Patches is a lgit fast scoring winger for McDavid. But remember mtl fans if we do this patches might get 50 goals with mcdavid so RNH better be good
 
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