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Winnipeg Edmonton are going to trade...just a matter of what

Créé par: scarbrow21
Équipe: 2018-19 Jets de Winnipeg
Date de création initiale: 28 mai 2018
Publié: 28 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
Swap of the teams 1st rounds in 2018-2019 Winnipeg able to draft best C or D available at #10.

EDM gets a PP QB in Myers who can play in the top 4 as RHD and PK. Armia whos a great depth possession/PK guy who can score and still has upside.
WPG gets LHD to replace Enstrom at a reasonable CAP hit by moving from their strong side once Trouba is re-signed to arguably their weakest position.
The 2020 1st round pick is insurance to Myers re-signing. Jets permit EDM to talk to Myers regarding an extension prior to the trade but this is insurance in the event they cannot get him signed.
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
66 125 000 $
65 000 000 $
52 500 000 $
21 000 000 $
21 000 000 $
75 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
1650 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Vesalainen, Kristian
3925 000 $
Transactions
1.
WPG
  1. Klefbom, Oscar
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (EDM)
EDM
  1. Armia, Joel
  2. Myers, Tyler
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2019 (WPG)
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2020 (WPG)
Détails additionnels:
EDM able to discuss extension prior to trade
2020 1st round pick is conditional and becomes nothing if Myers is re-signed. (protection to ensure Myers signs)
2.
WPG
  1. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (VAN)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2018
Logo de EDM
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de BOS
Logo de WPG
Logo de VAN
Logo de WPG
2019
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
2020
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
Logo de WPG
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2380 000 000 $75 644 499 $0 $3 895 000 $4 355 501 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Vesalainen, Kristian
925 000 $925 000 $
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
C
UFA - 6
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
C, AD, AG
UFA - 1
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AG
UFA - 1
894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
C, AD
UFA - 2
5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 3
5 291 667 $5 291 667 $
C, AD
NMC
UFA - 6
6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 7
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
C
UFA - 3
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
650 000 $650 000 $
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 2
6 125 000 $6 125 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
UFA - 6
4 167 000 $4 167 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
7 600 000 $7 600 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 3
4 100 000 $4 100 000 $
G
UFA - 1
775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
DG/DD
UFA - 2
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
DD
UFA - 3
4 333 333 $4 333 333 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2

Unités spéciales

Avantage numérique 1
Vesalainen, K.
Avantage numérique 2
Infériorité numérique 1
Infériorité numérique 2

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28 mai 2018 à 11 h 27
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Edmonton isn't going to give away their 10th overall pick in this insanely deep draft year unless they get a huge reward
28 mai 2018 à 11 h 31
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Doubt Edmonton trades klef and a first you're looking at trouba + then
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28 mai 2018 à 11 h 32
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Quoting: KaneRapesCrosbyDives
Edmonton isn't going to give away their 10th overall pick in this insanely deep draft year unless they get a huge reward


Says the guy with the GM who's known to trade gold for very perticular pieces of silver.
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28 mai 2018 à 12 h 41
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If Oilers and Winnipeg are trading for a D it’s for Trouba
28 mai 2018 à 12 h 53
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Since when has Chiarelli made a GOOD trade???
Hall for Larsson, Reinhart for a 1st and 2nd, Eberle for Strome.

At least in the above proposed trade the Oilers aren't getting THAT bent over. It's either going to be Myers or Faulk likely that the Oilers get and judging based on chiarellis preferences it'll be size based and recency bias. Myers having a good post-season, playoff experience, and the fact the Jets can also give EDM a solid depth guy in Armia that could actually be one of Chiarellis "best trades"...not saying much though
28 mai 2018 à 13 h 1
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Why does everyone want to send us Myers to be our "PP QB"? Anyone who watches the Oilers would know that McDavid is our PP QB, and RNH on PP2. Myers isn't going to supplant either one of those guys. And at 5v5, he's basically a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy (Myers' 5v5 points/60 is lower than Russell and Benning.)

And he's a UFA in 1 year.
28 mai 2018 à 13 h 18
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Quoting: CD282
Why does everyone want to send us Myers to be our "PP QB"? Anyone who watches the Oilers would know that McDavid is our PP QB, and RNH on PP2. Myers isn't going to supplant either one of those guys. And at 5v5, he's basically a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy (Myers' 5v5 points/60 is lower than Russell and Benning.)

And he's a UFA in 1 year.


Plus klef contract is easily top 10 best in the league hell no I'm trading him for Myers if we really want him will buy out Russell next year and sign him
28 mai 2018 à 17 h 36
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Why does everyone want to send us Myers to be our "PP QB"? Anyone who watches the Oilers would know that McDavid is our PP QB, and RNH on PP2. Myers isn't going to supplant either one of those guys. And at 5v5, he's basically a 2nd or 3rd pairing guy (Myers' 5v5 points/60 is lower than Russell and Benning.)

And he's a UFA in 1 year.


That is the problem with your PP. Mcdavid should not be a point man. Neither should RNH. You should have a defenceman who has a hard shot (Byfuglien, Parayko, Burns, Carlsson)
I am not saying that this trade is fair but the Oilers should trade the 10th OA for Myers or Faulk with an extension. And as far as Myers' value goes, he is not valuable on 5v5. His value is on the PP.
28 mai 2018 à 18 h 2
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That is the problem with your PP. Mcdavid should not be a point man. Neither should RNH. You should have a defenceman who has a hard shot (Byfuglien, Parayko, Burns, Carlsson)
I am not saying that this trade is fair but the Oilers should trade the 10th OA for Myers or Faulk with an extension. And as far as Myers' value goes, he is not valuable on 5v5. His value is on the PP.


A couple things:

- McDavid and RNH don't play the point - they run the pp from the right half wall. They have since they entered the league and pp was poor only last year: these guys are not the problem.
- Edmonton does have d-men that can bomb from the point (Klefbom) that isn't the problem either. Besides, the big point shots don't work anymore because of how the defense sets up. Ergo: Weber has more success at pp shots and goals than any other over the last 5 years, yet Montreal's pp is twice as efficient without him. You need a puck distributor at the point, not a bomber.
- if someone has value on pp but not 5v5 they're nearly worthless: 15+ minutes 5v5 per game vs 2:30 on pp.
28 mai 2018 à 19 h 9
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Quoting: CD282
A couple things:

- McDavid and RNH don't play the point - they run the pp from the right half wall. They have since they entered the league and pp was poor only last year: these guys are not the problem.
- Edmonton does have d-men that can bomb from the point (Klefbom) that isn't the problem either. Besides, the big point shots don't work anymore because of how the defense sets up. Ergo: Weber has more success at pp shots and goals than any other over the last 5 years, yet Montreal's pp is twice as efficient without him. You need a puck distributor at the point, not a bomber.
- if someone has value on pp but not 5v5 they're nearly worthless: 15+ minutes 5v5 per game vs 2:30 on pp.


First of all, Every good powerplay has a Point man who can bomb the puck. Klefbom may be one, but a smooth skating defenceman like Myers is perfect for any Powerplay. He plays on the second Unit an I do not think there was a single goal that the second unit scored that Myers did not have a point in. Plus Myers is more of a passer than a shooter.

By your philosophy, the oilers are the leagues best PP because they do not use a point man. Even GM peter chiarreli is wrong for publicly saying that he wants a RH PP defenceman in your eyes. The truth is that every powerplay runs better with a smooth skating defencemen who can make plays at the point as well as shoot when needed.

And saying that Myers is worthless is wrong. Less than half of his points are on the PP. By your philosophy wheeler is worthless as well because he led the league in PP assists and so is Laine because he led it in PP goals. Plus 1 year of Kevin Shattenkirk, who has worse numbers than Myers on 5v5, was worth a 1st.
Myers still had 20 Pts on even strength while playing with offensively challenged Dimitry Kulikov. He is a 2nd pairing D-man on almost every team.
The oilers need a PP QB/top 4 RHD and everyone agrees but you.
 
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