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Next Year - Trades With TOR/ WSH/ BUF/ NYI/ ANA + FA

Créé par: nuxfan
Équipe: 2018-19 Canucks de Vancouver
Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2018
Publié: 6 mai 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
2018 Draft Picks:
1st round pick (VAN) 7th
1st round pick (CGY) 11th
2nd round pick (VAN) 37th
3rd round pick (VAN) 68th
4th round pick (WSH) TBD
5th round pick (VAN) 130th
6th round pick (VAN) 161st
7th round pick (VAN) 192nd

All vets on expiring deals will be flipped at the trade deadline
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
RFAANSCAP HIT
21 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
21 500 000 $
1787 500 $
1721 875 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
Tavares, John
115 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
11 000 000 $
13 000 000 $
12 000 000 $
Transactions
1.
VAN
  1. Liljegren, Timothy
Détails additionnels:
2018 2nd round pick (SJS)
2.
VAN
    2018 4th round pick (WSH)
    3.
    VAN
    1. Bogosian, Zach
    Détails additionnels:
    Rights to Baptiste, N
    4.
    VAN
    1. Eberle, Jordan
    Détails additionnels:
    Rights to Tavares, J
    2018 1st round pick (CGY)
    NYI
      Rights to Baertschi, S
      Rights to Granlund, M
      2018 2nd round pick (SJS)
      5.
      VAN
      NYI
      1. Tavares, John (7 500 000 $ retained)
      2. Eberle, Jordan (3 000 000 $ retained)
      6.
      VAN
      1. Perry, Corey
      2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
      Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
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      2019
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de ANA
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      2020
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      2021
      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
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      Logo de VAN
      Logo de VAN
      TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
      2377 000 000 $71 067 371 $852 847 $1 912 500 $5 932 629 $
      Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
      8 625 000 $8 625 000 $
      AD
      NMC
      UFA - 3
      4 125 000 $4 125 000 $
      C
      UFA - 5
      925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      AD
      UFA - 1
      863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
      AG
      UFA - 1
      4 375 000 $4 375 000 $
      AD, C
      NTC
      UFA - 3
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      AD, AG
      UFA - 2
      650 000 $650 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 1
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AD
      UFA
      750 000 $750 000 $
      AG, C
      UFA - 1
      916 667 $916 667 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
      C, AD
      UFA - 2
      1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
      AG
      UFA - 4
      3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
      C
      UFA - 1
      2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
      C
      UFA
      Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
      5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
      DG
      NTC
      UFA - 1
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      3 666 667 $3 666 667 $
      G
      UFA - 2
      1 500 000 $1 500 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 3
      2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
      G
      UFA - 1
      2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      5 142 857 $5 142 857 $
      DD
      UFA - 2
      2 800 000 $2 800 000 $
      DG
      UFA - 1
      825 000 $825 000 $
      DD
      UFA - 2

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      6 mai 2018 à 17 h 16
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      Tanev ain't worth that
      6 mai 2018 à 17 h 19
      #2
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      Quoting: Canadian_Rednek
      Tanev ain't worth that


      Considering he is one of the best shot suppressing defenders in the league I think he is worth that
      6 mai 2018 à 17 h 23
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      Isles to retain 10.5m in salary?
      6 mai 2018 à 17 h 25
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      Quoting: palhal
      Isles to retain 10.5m in salary?


      No, Vancouver retains $10.5M.

      Vancouver receives:
      2018 1st round pick (CGY)

      New York receives:
      Tavares and Eberle at 50% off
      Granlund and Baertschi
      2018 2nd round pick (SJS)
      6 mai 2018 à 17 h 49
      #5
      DontToewsMe19
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      No, Vancouver retains $10.5M.

      Vancouver receives:
      2018 1st round pick (CGY)

      New York receives:
      Tavares and Eberle at 50% off
      Granlund and Baertschi
      2018 2nd round pick (SJS)


      Ummmmm, I’m pretty sure trades don’t work like that, and Vancouver is getting the 11th pick to give you Grandlund, Baertschi, a 2nd and take on 10.5 million in dead cap space. Think about that.

      Oh, Eriksson doesn’t get you a 4th let alone a 2nd and Perry, regardless of how much he’s declined.

      Buffalo doesn’t need Gagner. But I won criticize that one I guess.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 21
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      Quoting: DontToewsMe19
      Ummmmm, I’m pretty sure trades don’t work like that, and Vancouver is getting the 11th pick to give you Grandlund, Baertschi, a 2nd and take on 10.5 million in dead cap space. Think about that.

      Oh, Eriksson doesn’t get you a 4th let alone a 2nd and Perry, regardless of how much he’s declined.

      Buffalo doesn’t need Gagner. But I won criticize that one I guess.

      NYI:
      The NYI trades are two separate trades that are linked. 1st trade: Vancouver acquires a conditional 1st rounder, Tavares and Eberle for Granlund, Baertschi and a 2nd. The condition is Vancouver will trade Tavares and Eberle back with 50% retained salary to receive the 1st rounder or else Vancouver must give NYI 4 1st rounders. 2nd trade: Vancouver re-signs Tavares to a one-year $15M deal and sends both him and Eberle back to NYI with 50% retained.

      ANA:
      Eriksson will gain value on July 2nd (the day after he is paid his big signing bonus). He will only be making 14 million during his time in Anaheim and he will be eligible to be exposed during the Seattle Expansion Draft which may handcuff Anaheim if they keep Perry.

      BUF:
      Buffalo saves cap space by acquiring Gagner and shipping out Bogosian.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 37
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      Wow. That Isles trade is aggressively harmful to the Isles. We lose our franchise center, an under contract 60 point winger and a 1st rounder to get the RFA Rights to two players worse than the ones we’re giving away and all we get back is a 2nd rounder. And you want the Isles to pay half of Tavares’ and Eberle’s salaries? Why? Why would anyone do that? It makes no sense from a business angle, a salary cap angle, a value angle, it just makes zero sense.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 40
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      LMAO. Liljegren alone is worth Tanev+., And yet you add to liljegren? Tanev has played max 70 games in a season and is always hurt. No way he is moved for liljegren.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 40
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      Quoting: Hawkisles
      Wow. That Isles trade is aggressively harmful to the Isles. We lose our franchise center, an under contract 60 point winger and a 1st rounder to get the RFA Rights to two players worse than the ones we’re giving away and all we get back is a 2nd rounder. And you want the Isles to pay half of Tavares’ and Eberle’s salaries? Why? Why would anyone do that? It makes no sense from a business angle, a salary cap angle, a value angle, it just makes zero sense.


      You've got it all wrong bud. Vancouver is going to get the 2018 1st round pick (CGY) and New York is going to get Tavares and Eberle at 50% off, Baertschi, Granlund and a 2nd rounder once everything is all said and done.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 46
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      Quoting: GronkNation
      LMAO. Liljegren alone is worth Tanev+., And yet you add to liljegren? Tanev has played max 70 games in a season and is always hurt. No way he is moved for liljegren.


      Tanev has only played max 70 games because of the style he plays. Considering how Boston exposed Toronto's defense and the fact that Toronto is going to hire a new GM this deal has a chance to go through.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 48
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      Tanev has only played max 70 games because of the style he plays. Considering how Boston exposed Toronto's defense and the fact that Toronto is going to hire a new GM this deal has a chance to go through.


      Unless the new GM is Bergevin, the Leafs wont trade Liljegren.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 49
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      Quoting: GronkNation
      Unless the new GM is Bergevin, the Leafs wont trade Liljegren.


      We'll just have to wait and see then.
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 50
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      We'll just have to wait and see then.


      Please God NO
      6 mai 2018 à 18 h 59
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      You've got it all wrong bud. Vancouver is going to get the 2018 1st round pick (CGY) and New York is going to get Tavares and Eberle at 50% off, Baertschi, Granlund and a 2nd rounder once everything is all said and done.


      Huh. That seems like a bad deal for you guys. Why would you give away all of that young talent and cap space just to move up one round?
      6 mai 2018 à 21 h 18
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      I'm still stuck on the notion of Washington paying you with a pick to take on Dorsett's contract.

      They already have enough cap problems. No need to give away picks in order to make it worse.
      6 mai 2018 à 23 h 50
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      Quoting: Zanerax
      I'm still stuck on the notion of Washington paying you with a pick to take on Dorsett's contract.

      They already have enough cap problems. No need to give away picks in order to make it worse.


      It actually makes their cap issues better. Dorsett is retired and can be placed on LTIR to give Washington some cap relief (help re-sign Carlson).
      6 mai 2018 à 23 h 55
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      Isles dont have short term cap problems, this trade makes no sense for them
      7 mai 2018 à 12 h 10
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      It actually makes their cap issues better. Dorsett is retired and can be placed on LTIR to give Washington some cap relief (help re-sign Carlson).


      What? It does nothing but hurt them.

      You get cap relief yes, but not for more then the contract's cap hit. And you only get it for as much as the replacement call up pushes you above the cap, which would mean they would sit at 0 accrued cap space and be un-able to make any deadline deals that would put you above the cap.

      Furthermore, you need to be under the cap at the start of the year (when you can first put someone on LTIR). Which, for a small contract like Dorsett's, you can probably finagle around by papering waiver-exempt players into the AHL and then calling them up day 1 (and getting the appropriate cap relief), but there is no reason for them to introduce those problems without benefit.
      8 mai 2018 à 14 h 35
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      Quoting: nuxfan
      You've got it all wrong bud. Vancouver is going to get the 2018 1st round pick (CGY) and New York is going to get Tavares and Eberle at 50% off, Baertschi, Granlund and a 2nd rounder once everything is all said and done.[/quote
      Exactly, Vancouver gives up 2 quality roster players and minimum 10 million in cap to get one mid round 1st. I don't see the fair value here.
       
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