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Créé par: TkachukNorris79

Équipe: 2017-18 Sénateurs d'Ottawa

Date de création initiale: 6 mai 2018

Publié: 6 mai 2018

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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Apparently he's available. And Bennett. Bennett's value is pretty tough to gauge. I'd say him and Ceci are probably a wash. Ceci probably holds a bit more value at this point as he's realistically at worst a #4D, and Bennett hasn't really shown anything to say he's a top 6. But he's still a recent 4OA so it's kind of a wash.

Stone and Smith are washes as well. We take on Stone as we don't resign Wideman, and you get Smith as a 4th line and get rid of Stone to let Andersson play.

That leaves Hamilton for Hoffman, 1st and a 3rd. I really like Dougie, and I think this is good value for him but I don't know if CAL bites.

Anyways, yeah I was bored.

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CGY

Ceci, Cody
Hoffman, Mike
Smith, Zack
Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2020 (CBJ)

Rachats de contrats

Marián Gáborík: 1 125 000 $
Alexandre Burrows: 2 500 000 $

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Dion Phaneuf: 1 750 000 $ (25%)

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
26	75 000 000 $	63 631 664 $	0 $	1 645 000 $	11 368 336 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Dzingel, Ryan 1 800 000 $1 800 000 $ AG, AD, C UFA - 2	Duchene, Matt 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ AD, C UFA - 2	White, Colin 925 000 $925 000 $ (850 000 $$850K) C, AD UFA - 2
Pääjärvi, Magnus 800 000 $800 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Pageau, Jean-Gabriel 3 100 000 $3 100 000 $ C UFA - 3
Ryan, Bobby 7 250 000 $7 250 000 $ AD, AG M-NTC, NMC UFA - 5	Bennett, Sam 1 950 000 $1 950 000 $ C UFA - 2	Stone, Mark 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ AD UFA - 1
	Paul, Nicholas 670 000 $670 000 $ (182 500 $$182K) C, AG UFA - 1	Chlapik, Filip 728 333 $728 333 $ (182 500 $$182K) C UFA - 3
McCormick, Max 650 000 $650 000 $ AG UFA - 2	Brown, Logan 894 166 $894 166 $ C, AG RFA - 4	Pyatt, Tom 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ C UFA - 2
Formenton, Alex 784 166 $784 166 $ AG RFA - 5		Batherson, Drake 763 333 $763 333 $ AD, AG UFA - 4

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Borowiecki, Mark 1 100 000 $1 100 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Karlsson, Erik 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 2	Anderson, Craig 4 200 000 $4 200 000 $ G UFA - 1
Chabot, Thomas 863 333 $863 333 $ (360 000 $$360K) DG UFA - 3	Hamilton, Dougie 5 750 000 $5 750 000 $ DD UFA - 4	Condon, Mike 2 400 000 $2 400 000 $ G UFA - 3
Wolanin, Christian 925 000 $925 000 $ DG UFA - 2	Stone, Michael 3 500 000 $3 500 000 $ DD M-NTC UFA - 3
Harpur, Ben 653 333 $653 333 $ (70 000 $$70K) DG UFA - 1	Wideman, Chris 800 000 $800 000 $ DD UFA - 1
Claesson, Fredrik 650 000 $650 000 $ DG UFA - 1

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		MacArthur, Clarke 4 650 000 $4 650 000 $ AG M-NTC UFA - 3

6 mai 2018 à 5 h 34

SirCharles

Rejoint: avr. 2017

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I think the value is good. I just can't see the Flames taking on 2 more LW's when they have Johnny Hockey and Tkachuk. Fun to think about though.

6 mai 2018 à 7 h 46

BigBeardBurns

Rejoint: févr. 2018

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Quoting: SirCharles

I think the value is good. I just can't see the Flames taking on 2 more LW's when they have Johnny Hockey and Tkachuk. Fun to think about though.

Maybe replace Hoffman with 1/2 retained BR and a 2nd?

6 mai 2018 à 10 h 2

lavsim96

Lavsim

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 661

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Get a beat that's super bumping then put your arms out front, lean side to side rock on

As for the post, idk why there are always these Hamilton rumors considering he's inked to a long term deal and still young but i'd say the value is there but idk how much they would want to replace him by Ceci.
If the Sens do keep Karlsson, idk if this makes much sens either. I'd rather target a partner for Karlsson then get a guy to play behind him.

For the roster, i'll say that Formenton should really get a chance at a top-9 spot and Brown too.

6 mai 2018 à 12 h 48

BurnEmUp

Yeah Baby

Rejoint: mai 2015

Messages: 1,370

Mentions "j'aime": 322

I wouldn't trade Hamilton alone for that package yet you think the Flames will just toss in Bennett and Stone too?

Now, Bennett and Stone aren't great assets at this point, but Hamilton certainly is.

Let me give you an idea of what Calgary needs in return for Hamilton: Dougie Hamilton for Mark Stone straight up. Elite Dman for an elite forward in the same age age group. Pure hockey trade.

6 mai 2018 à 20 h 11

BlastyRocks

Beanmachine

Rejoint: mai 2018

Messages: 1,485

Mentions "j'aime": 498

I agree Stone for Hamilton is the only way Ottawa gets DH

6 mai 2018 à 21 h 0

Duncstar

=O=

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 30

Mentions "j'aime": 0

Stone is better than Hamilton so stop trying to get him or add to Hamilton.

7 mai 2018 à 4 h 23

TkachukNorris79

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TkachukNorris79

Rejoint: janv. 2018

Messages: 1,256

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Quoting: BurnEmUp

I've watched a lot of flames and a lot of sens. Dougie Hamilton is not elite, and neither is Mark Stone. That word gets used way too often. But Stone is closer to it than Hamilton. You could use the "defence are more valuable than wingers" argument but Stone is one of the few wingers who is tremendous both offensively and defensively. Over a PPG this year too on a really bad team.

I get that you wouldn't want to trade Hamilton without getting someone like Stone back, I wouldn't want to either. But there are some rumors he's being shopped, and a package like this helps you now as well as gives you a 1st this year.

7 mai 2018 à 14 h 57

BurnEmUp

Yeah Baby

Rejoint: mai 2015

Messages: 1,370

Mentions "j'aime": 322

Quoting: MelnykOut

No, we don't want that crappy package for an ELITE defenseman. That package makes our team worse when you factor in that Hamilton would be gone.

Quote:

There are 77 NHL defensemen that played more than 1250 minutes last year.

In that group of 77 Hamilton is ....

2nd in CF%
2nd in Shot differential
34th in goal differential
3rd in scoring chance differential
2nd in high danger chance differential

Someone above mentioned he gives up too many scoring chances.

he gave up the 12th least of the 77 in scoring chances against
he gave up the 10th least of the 77 in high danger chances against

he was ranked 56th in on ice shooting percentage and
62nd in on ice save percentage suggesting he was somewhat unlucky last season to be honest.

That is pretty ELITE.

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