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What I would ask For Kane from Every Logical Trade Partner

Créé par: carlcataclysm
Équipe: 2017-18 Sabres de Buffalo
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2018
Publié: 14 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
*Disclaimer*
I'm Aware that many of these teams would be unwilling to part with what I'm asking.

That's what I would be "asking" for if they wouldn't go for it then its someone else's lucky day.
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1.
BUF
  1. Mahura, Josh
  2. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (ANA)
  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (ANA)
2.
BUF
  1. Necas, Martin
  2. Nedeljkovic, Alex
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CAR)
  4. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (CAR)
CAR
    Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
    3.
    BUF
    1. Bjorkstrand, Oliver
    2. Johnson, Jack
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (CBJ)
    4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (CBJ)
    CBJ
    1. Beaulieu, Nathan
    Détails additionnels:
    Kane, Evander $5,250,000
    4.
    BUF
    1. Gravel, Kevin
    2. Kempe, Adrian
    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (LAK)
    LAK
      Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
      5.
      BUF
      1. Ennis, Tyler
      2. Murphy, Ryan
      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (MIN)
      4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (BUF)
      Détails additionnels:
      Ennis is playing the 4th line, this is a cap dump.
      MIN
        Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
        6.
        BUF
        1. Åberg, Pontus
        2. Trenin, Yakov
        3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NSH)
        NSH
          Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
          7.
          BUF
          1. Quenneville, John
          2. Sissons, Colby
          3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NJD)
          NJD
            Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
            8.
            BUF
            1. Bellows, Kieffer
            2. Chimera, Jason
            3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (NYI)
            NYI
              Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
              9.
              BUF
              1. Hägg, Robert
              2. Rubtsov, German
              3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PHI)
              PHI
                Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
                10.
                BUF
                1. Hagelin, Carl
                2. Miletic, Sam
                3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (PIT)
                Détails additionnels:
                hagelins recent value gets the forth
                PIT
                1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2018 (BUF)
                Détails additionnels:
                Kane, Evander ($3,937,500) 50% retained
                11.
                BUF
                1. Korenar, Josef
                2. Meier, Timo
                3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
                SJS
                  Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
                  12.
                  BUF
                  1. Kyrou, Jordan
                  2. Sobotka, Vladimír
                  3. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (STL)
                  4. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (STL)
                  STL
                  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (CBJ)
                  Détails additionnels:
                  Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
                  13.
                  BUF
                  1. Koekkoek, Slater
                  2. Raddysh, Taylor
                  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TBL)
                  TBL
                    Kane, Evander ($2,625,000) retain 50%
                    14.
                    BUF
                    1. Kapanen, Kasperi
                    2. Leivo, Josh
                    3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
                    TOR
                      Kane, Evander ($2,625,000) 50% retained
                      15.
                      BUF
                      1. Reinhart, Griffin
                      2. Suzuki, Nick
                      3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (VGK)
                      VGK
                        Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
                        16.
                        BUF
                        1. Orpik, Brooks
                        2. Vrána, Jakub
                        3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (WSH)
                        4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (WSH)
                        WSH
                          Kane, Evander ($2,625,000) retain 50%
                          Beaulieu, N ($2,400,000)
                          17.
                          BUF
                          1. Niku, Sami
                          2. Roslovic, Jack
                          3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
                          4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (WPG)
                          WPG
                            Kane, Evander ($5,250,000)
                            18.
                            BUF
                            1. Beleskey, Matt
                            2. Bjork, Anders
                            3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                            4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
                            BOS
                            1. Falk, Justin
                            Détails additionnels:
                            Kane, Evander ($2,625,000) retain 50%
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                            TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
                            5775 000 000 $98 605 831 $0 $8 747 500 $-23 605 831 $
                            Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
                            1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
                            C
                            UFA - 6
                            6 000 000 $6 000 000 $
                            AD
                            NMC
                            UFA - 6
                            1 150 000 $1 150 000 $
                            AG
                            UFA - 1
                            1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 2
                            5 600 000 $5 600 000 $
                            AD
                            M-NTC, NMC
                            UFA - 2
                            625 000 $625 000 $
                            AG
                            UFA - 1
                            1 475 000 $1 475 000 $
                            C, AG
                            UFA - 2
                            894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance2 650 000 $$3M)
                            AD
                            UFA - 1
                            950 000 $950 000 $
                            AG
                            UFA - 1
                            718 333 $718 333 $ (Bonis de performance60 000 $$60K)
                            AD
                            UFA - 1
                            650 000 $650 000 $
                            AD, AG
                            UFA - 2
                            925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
                            C
                            UFA - 1
                            655 833 $655 833 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
                            AD, AG
                            UFA - 1
                            1 125 000 $1 125 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 1
                            700 000 $700 000 $
                            C, AG
                            UFA - 1
                            894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance750 000 $$750K)
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 2
                            1 875 000 $1 875 000 $
                            AG
                            UFA - 2
                            650 000 $650 000 $
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 2
                            864 166 $864 166 $
                            AD
                            RFA - 4
                            710 000 $710 000 $
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 3
                            925 000 $925 000 $
                            AD
                            RFA - 5
                            863 333 $863 333 $
                            AD
                            UFA - 2
                            3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 3
                            894 167 $894 167 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 2
                            612 500 $612 500 $
                            AD, AG
                            UFA - 1
                            4 600 000 $4 600 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 2
                            863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance500 000 $$500K)
                            AG
                            UFA - 2
                            730 833 $730 833 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 3
                            1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
                            AG
                            M-NTC
                            UFA - 3
                            811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
                            AG, C
                            UFA - 2
                            925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 3
                            925 000 $925 000 $
                            AG, AD
                            UFA - 4
                            925 000 $925 000 $
                            C
                            UFA - 4
                            772 500 $772 500 $
                            AD
                            UFA - 4
                            925 000 $925 000 $
                            C
                            UFA - 5
                            894 166 $894 166 $ (Bonis de performance212 500 $$212K)
                            C, AD
                            UFA - 3
                            Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
                            2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 3
                            5 400 000 $5 400 000 $
                            DD
                            UFA - 5
                            4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
                            G
                            UFA - 1
                            3 900 000 $3 900 000 $
                            DG
                            M-NTC
                            UFA - 1
                            5 142 857 $5 142 857 $
                            DD
                            UFA - 3
                            2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
                            G
                            UFA - 1
                            650 000 $650 000 $
                            DD
                            UFA - 1
                            811 667 $811 667 $ (Bonis de performance82 500 $$82K)
                            G
                            UFA - 2
                            1 600 000 $1 600 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            UFA - 2
                            726 666 $726 666 $
                            G
                            RFA - 4
                            925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
                            DG
                            UFA - 1
                            4 357 143 $4 357 143 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 1
                            650 000 $650 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 1
                            700 000 $700 000 $
                            DD
                            UFA - 1
                            693 333 $693 333 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 4
                            894 167 $894 167 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 1
                            800 000 $800 000 $
                            DG/DD
                            UFA - 1
                            800 000 $800 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 2
                            5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
                            DG
                            UFA - 2
                            775 000 $775 000 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
                            DG/DD
                            UFA - 3
                            759 166 $759 166 $
                            DG/DD
                            RFA - 4

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                            14 févr. 2018 à 13 h 24
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                            Dang, you are using some prospects as equals when they clearly are not plus throwing cap dumps in trades but not in others. A lot of these trades are much better than others.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 13 h 26
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                            Quoting: F50marco
                            Dang, you are using some prospects as equals when they clearly are not plus throwing cap dumps in trades but not in others. A lot of these trades are much better than others.


                            well some teams don't require the cap dumps. I checked each teams cap before designing the trade.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 13 h 33
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            well some teams don't require the cap dumps. I checked each teams cap before designing the trade.


                            No I get some teams may require it to be complaint, but you're adding it in without any additional benefit to Buffalo. Why would Buffalo choose the Boston trade over lets say the Winnipeg trade for example?
                            14 févr. 2018 à 13 h 37
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                            Quoting: F50marco
                            No I get some teams may require it to be complaint, but you're adding it in without any additional benefit to Buffalo. Why would Buffalo choose the Boston trade over lets say the Winnipeg trade for example?


                            You can't really look at them all in the same context, You have to assume that Boston was the only one calling at the time and same for the rest. Also I kinda Mailed in the Boston deal honestly because I don't think the Sabres would ever trade with Boston.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 2
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            You can't really look at them all in the same context, You have to assume that Boston was the only one calling at the time and same for the rest. Also I kinda Mailed in the Boston deal honestly because I don't think the Sabres would ever trade with Boston.


                            Oh ok.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 16
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                            Pretty logical trades tbh. Like you said, some teams wouldn't want to give you some players. Hagelin is opening space for Geno so he's valuable to the Pens. Miletic is a decent prospect that I'd think Buffalo would like. Good stuff, thanks for the nice read
                            carlcataclysm et DuckenRen a aimé ceci.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 30
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                            Quoting: F50marco
                            Dang, you are using some prospects as equals when they clearly are not plus throwing cap dumps in trades but not in others. A lot of these trades are much better than others.


                            I think carl knows this, I think he would like to have specific feed back which ones are most likely, logical and fair.

                            5 Stars for cloning and trading Kane 23 times laugh. TBH I think DATM would even mess up this rebuild. cry
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 37
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                            I'm big on Kane and all but asking for a teams best prospect AND a first round pick, among other things is absurd (especially considering he's a UFA at the end of the year). The CAR, NYI, and VGK trades are laughable
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 39
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                            Quoting: GMTD
                            I think carl knows this, I think he would like to have specific feed back which ones are most likely, logical and fair.

                            5 Stars for cloning and trading Kane 23 times laugh. TBH I think DATM would even mess up this rebuild. cry


                            This guy gets it! lol.. Yeah If I had to vote on my favorite it would be the one with TBL, If I were to vote for the one most likely it would be PIT. I know Hagelin has stepped up his game but you look at the way he started the season and the pens are probably not looking forward to him being on the squad next year plus if your being honest you would take kane all day over Hagelin.

                            Also reports are that Rutherford believes Kanes attitude issues are related to being a part of a losing franchise his whole career and thinks he would be different in PIT kinda like how Kessel's attitude turned around when he got there.
                            GMTD a aimé ceci.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 44
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                            Quoting: TimMurraySmells
                            I'm big on Kane and all but asking for a teams best prospect AND a first round pick, among other things is absurd (especially considering he's a UFA at the end of the year). The CAR, NYI, and VGK trades are laughable


                            3 out of 23 isn't bad lol, and its deff not the best prospect from every team... VGK Brannstrom is their top prospect, NYI you only asking a 1st and grade A prospect with a cap dump, in a year that might be Johnny T's last in NY they are deff in a win now mode, The Carolina one may be too much and I'll admit that, I don't know much about Nedeljkovic, A.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 14 h 58
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                            I would rather undergo a cystoscopy without anesthesia than have Kane playing for the Bruins
                            14 févr. 2018 à 15 h 2
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                            Quoting: dragonlocks
                            I would rather undergo a cystoscopy without anesthesia than have Kane playing for the Bruins


                            I would rather not see that either he's too good a player to be involved with that organization lol.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 15 h 4
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                            Flyers are not a logical trade parter. They are not making any "blockbuster" caliber moves unless they feel that it would be a long term optiom.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 16 h 7
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                            edmonton would still win the lottery
                            14 févr. 2018 à 16 h 40
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                            Quoting: phillyjabroni
                            Flyers are not a logical trade parter. They are not making any "blockbuster" caliber moves unless they feel that it would be a long term optiom.


                            Kane is only 26 and is hitting his prime he could deff contribute to their future.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 16 h 46
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            Kane is only 26 and is hitting his prime he could deff contribute to their future.


                            We have other prospects that can take over for Kane (Oskar Lindblom, Wade Allison, German Rubstov, Morgan Frost, Mikhail Yorobyov) while not having to move assets for a front-office headache and around 8 percent of our cap hit.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 16 h 57
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                            Quoting: phillyjabroni
                            We have other prospects that can take over for Kane (Oskar Lindblom, Wade Allison, German Rubstov, Morgan Frost, Mikhail Yorobyov) while not having to move assets for a front-office headache and around 8 percent of our cap hit.


                            None of those guys are Evander Kane, there are very few Kane's in the league, in fact if he went there Philly would have 2 of them Simmonds and Kane are two of the best power forwards in the game.
                            14 févr. 2018 à 17 h 2
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            None of those guys are Evander Kane, there are very few Kane's in the league, in fact if he went there Philly would have 2 of them Simmonds and Kane are two of the best power forwards in the game.


                            I wouldn't move a ton of unproven assets for a rental, especially since rentals typically don't result in winning the cup (Shattenkirk, Hanzel, etc.). If we wanted to get him locked up long term, we can just sign him in the offseason. Essentially the deal is trading those prospects for the option to try to lock up Kane before he hits the open market.
                            15 févr. 2018 à 9 h 13
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                            Quoting: phillyjabroni
                            I wouldn't move a ton of unproven assets for a rental, especially since rentals typically don't result in winning the cup (Shattenkirk, Hanzel, etc.). If we wanted to get him locked up long term, we can just sign him in the offseason. Essentially the deal is trading those prospects for the option to try to lock up Kane before he hits the open market.


                            GM's do crazy things when they think they can win lol.
                            15 févr. 2018 à 9 h 41
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            GM's do crazy things when they think they can win lol.


                            Not Hextall. He said this team was a playoff team after loss #8 (I think) during the ten game losing streak. He isn't going to sell the farm.
                            15 févr. 2018 à 9 h 44
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                            Quoting: phillyjabroni
                            Not Hextall. He said this team was a playoff team after loss #8 (I think) during the ten game losing streak. He isn't going to sell the farm.


                            well kudos to him, it will be interesting to see if they do anything at the deadline.
                            15 févr. 2018 à 9 h 58
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                            Quoting: carlcataclysm
                            well kudos to him, it will be interesting to see if they do anything at the deadline.


                            Only hope that they acquire a goaltender for a relativly cheap price
                             
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