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Mcdonagh, Nash, Grabner, Holden(read Description before comments)

Créé par: seaschell1211
Équipe: 2017-18 Rangers de New York
Date de création initiale: 13 févr. 2018
Publié: 13 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Description
ON RICK NASH:
Would love a 1st(as shown below) but would definitely be willing for 2nd and 3rd(2019)

ON GRABNER:

2 seconds is fair value. Not worth a pick and prospect, and not a first. But definitely 2 picks. Could be like Nash above a 2nd and 3rd.

ON HOLDEN:

I don't care where he goes but we would be stupid to let him walk at the end of the year for nothing. Willing to get as low as a 5th.

ON MCDONAGH:

I think this is really a good deal for both sides. Maybe I under valued McDonagh a little because Karlsson will be available too and he will most likely get a 1st, 2nd and prospect(potentially 2 1sts) if he leaves OTT.

BUT: Grundstrom played with Andersson in Frolunda and I think it would be good chemistry for the future.

Mcdonagh will definitely return a 1st though. If the leafs make the playoffs(most likely will) then it will be a low pick so I could see more coming back to the Rangers due to this(plus retaining 50%), maybe a conditional pick(2018 2nd TOR (Not SJS's who will have a higher pick)) if they make the playoffs.
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NYR
  1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2018 (BOS)
  2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (BOS)
BOS
  1. Grabner, Michael
2.
NYR
  1. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (SJS)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2019 3rd if Nash resigns
SJS
  1. Nash, Rick (3 900 000 $ retained)
Détails additionnels:
Can be any team willing to give a first
3.
NYR
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2018 (LAK)
LAK
  1. Holden, Nick
4.
NYR
  1. Grundström, Carl
  2. Kapanen, Kasperi
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
Détails additionnels:
Conditional 2019 (2nd or 3rd) if Leafs make playoffs
TOR
  1. McDonagh, Ryan
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $60 167 777 $0 $4 415 000 $14 832 223 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Kreider, Chris
4 625 000 $4 625 000 $
AG
UFA - 3
Zibanejad, Mika
5 350 000 $5 350 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Buchnevich, Pavel
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD, C
UFA - 2
Miller, J.T.
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
Hayes, Kevin
2 600 000 $2 600 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Zuccarello, Mats
3 150 000 $3 150 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Vesey, Jimmy
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
AD, AG
UFA - 1
Lettieri, Vinni
925 000 $925 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 2
Carey, Paul
650 000 $650 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Desharnais, David
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Fast, Jesper
1 850 000 $1 850 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
McLeod, Cody
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Holland, Peter
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Skjei, Brady
925 000 $925 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Shattenkirk, Kevin
6 650 000 $6 650 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
Lundqvist, Henrik
8 500 000 $8 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 4
Deangelo, Anthony
863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance400 000 $$400K)
DD
UFA - 2
Kampfer, Steven
650 000 $650 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
Pavelec, Ondrej
1 300 000 $1 300 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Gilmour, John
742 500 $742 500 $ (Bonis de performance182 500 $$182K)
D
UFA - 1
Pionk, Neal
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
DD
UFA - 2
Georgiev, Alexandar
792 500 $792 500 $ (Bonis de performance132 500 $$132K)
G
UFA - 3
Sproul, Ryan
625 000 $625 000 $
DD
UFA - 1

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13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 11
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McD deal is terrible. hard pass
13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 13
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Quoting: Barathrum_Obama
McD deal is terrible. hard pass


Like I said in comments(I UNDER Valued him because of Karlsson.. most likely get another pick)
13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 14
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Rangers say no to all. Remember about 3 weeks ago when most Ranger trades had McDonagh for Marner, That valuation hasn't changed. It's just spread out over multiple pieces.
13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 30
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Modifié 13 févr. 2018 à 15 h 13
McDonagh should fetch a 2018 1st, 2019 2nd & 2 prospects, not being the orgs top 3, so between 3-10. So something like CARL GRUNDSTRÖM, & YEGOR KORSHKOV or EEMELI RÄSÄNEN.

The ask will be for Marner or Nylander or TIMOTHY LILJEGREN but i don't think TOR budges.

Nash should get more 2018 1st & 1 A (1-3) prospect or 2 B (3-10) prospects, JOSHUA NORRIS , DYLAN GAMBRELL

Grabner can fetch a 2018 1st OR a A or B prospect & a 2018 2nd, depends where the 2nd look it like it will land, probably between 45- 62.
13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 34
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Rangers say no to all. Remember about 3 weeks ago when most Ranger trades had McDonagh for Marner, That valuation hasn't changed. It's just spread out over multiple pieces.


Can't see the Leafs giving up Marner for an older defenseman who will demand a big salary soon, especially now that Marner has been playing better. It's a risky move for a team that wants to go far in the playoffs. Maybe they would part with Kapanen and a 1st?
13 févr. 2018 à 14 h 40
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Quoting: Sagecoll
Rangers say no to all. Remember about 3 weeks ago when most Ranger trades had McDonagh for Marner, That valuation hasn't changed. It's just spread out over multiple pieces.

You would say no to 2 2nd round picks for Grabner? I think that's more than fair though considering he most likely will not resign.
Nash deal is fair too, either my comments above or the actual trade. I know we are retaining that's why the Rangers will most likely get 2 picks.
And Holden for a third is more than fair too.

Quoting: ADTR55
Can't see the Leafs giving up Marner for an older defenseman who will demand a big salary soon, especially now that Marner has been playing better. It's a risky move for a team that wants to go far in the playoffs. Maybe they would part with Kapanen and a 1st?

Could definitely see a 1st Kapanen and Grundstrom and a conditional pick if leafs make the playoffs for McDonagh.
13 févr. 2018 à 15 h 0
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if this is the honest asking price the Rangers expect for McD if Lou trades for him im going to punch him in the face. Way to much future to give up.
13 févr. 2018 à 15 h 10
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I'm just saying that's the equivalent. But there becomes a point where the ceiling has to match. For example, Lou says Marner off the table. Ok we start with Liljegren then. He says Liljegren off the table. Ok we start with Dermott then. He says he's off the table and Rangers walk away. In the Dermott or Liljegren situation you're looking at a 1st + 2nd + piece. We would take on a cap dump for another or better future.
13 févr. 2018 à 15 h 50
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A lot to ask for Nash imo.
13 févr. 2018 à 15 h 56
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Quoting: Sagecoll
I'm just saying that's the equivalent. But there becomes a point where the ceiling has to match. For example, Lou says Marner off the table. Ok we start with Liljegren then. He says Liljegren off the table. Ok we start with Dermott then. He says he's off the table and Rangers walk away. In the Dermott or Liljegren situation you're looking at a 1st + 2nd + piece. We would take on a cap dump for another or better future.


You are all out of your mind. Leafs have a plan in place. They are not willing to deal Blue chip prospects, or young talented stars playing in the NHL right now. Dermott, Kapanen, Lilijgren, Marner/Nylander are all off the table. Stop making these ridiculous propositions with the leafs. Think more BOS or TBL for McDonaugh
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 1
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You are all out of your mind. Leafs have a plan in place. They are not willing to deal Blue chip prospects, or young talented stars playing in the NHL right now. Dermott, Kapanen, Lilijgren, Marner/Nylander are all off the table. Stop making these ridiculous propositions with the leafs. Think more BOS or TBL for McDonaugh


"I want a 1D but I don't want to pay for a 1D" is a sentiment I've seen a lot of. I want a steak, I'll give you 20 crumbs. NHL GM's and coaches value Cups. Now the Leafs don't have to make the move. And Lou isn't the sort to do anything brash I agree. But if it's not you guys it's someone else. And Boston and Tampa don't have the pieces without giving up roster pieces.
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 6
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Quoting: Sagecoll
"I want a 1D but I don't want to pay for a 1D" is a sentiment I've seen a lot of. I want a steak, I'll give you 20 crumbs. NHL GM's and coaches value Cups. Now the Leafs don't have to make the move. And Lou isn't the sort to do anything brash I agree. But if it's not you guys it's someone else. And Boston and Tampa don't have the pieces without giving up roster pieces.


I agree with you, the only thing I have against you is the fact that you are smart and you know this, yet you still choose to do the unrealistic trade with the leafs. Honestly, even BOS wont agree to this if it means parting ways with their young talent. Your 2 best options are TBL, OTT, DAL, and WSH (& maybe MTL). Good luck
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 15
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Quoting: hazard
I agree with you, the only thing I have against you is the fact that you are smart and you know this, yet you still choose to do the unrealistic trade with the leafs. Honestly, even BOS wont agree to this if it means parting ways with their young talent. Your 2 best options are TBL, OTT, DAL, and WSH (& maybe MTL). Good luck


Sorry I also forgot to retain 1/2 of McDonagh's salary when i updated this.. My original post was Grundstrom and the 1st with a conditional 2nd round pick in 2018(TOR not SJS(SJS will be the better pick)). I think you are correct in that McDonagh will probably go to Boston or Tampa but there is a chance he goes to Toronto that's why I did this. I see Kapenen being given up before Lilijgren, and no way are The leafs giving up Nylander or Marner, and as a Rangers fan I really want to get a bunch of picks(that would be my goal).
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 16
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Lest we never forget this one ...

2004-Mar-03 Traded from New York Rangers with round 4 pick in the 2004 draft (Roman Kukumberg) to Toronto Maple Leafs for Maxim Kondratiev, Jarkko Immonen, round 1 pick in the 2004 draft (Kris Chucko) and round 2 pick in the 2005 draft for Brian leetch who also had 1 more year on his deal (but was lost to the l04/05 lockout)
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 20
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Quoting: seaschell1211
Sorry I also forgot to retain 1/2 of McDonagh's salary when i updated this.. My original post was Grundstrom and the 1st with a conditional 2nd round pick in 2018(TOR not SJS(SJS will be the better pick)). I think you are correct in that McDonagh will probably go to Boston or Tampa but there is a chance he goes to Toronto that's why I did this. I see Kapenen being given up before Lilijgren, and no way are The leafs giving up Nylander or Marner, and as a Rangers fan I really want to get a bunch of picks(that would be my goal).


Id gladly give you A.Neilsen, N.Shoshnikov, a 2019 first, and cond 3rd if you really want picks and prospects. Otherwise, you can keep him
13 févr. 2018 à 16 h 46
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Quoting: hazard
I agree with you, the only thing I have against you is the fact that you are smart and you know this, yet you still choose to do the unrealistic trade with the leafs. Honestly, even BOS wont agree to this if it means parting ways with their young talent. Your 2 best options are TBL, OTT, DAL, and WSH (& maybe MTL). Good luck


I don't disagree with any of that. Don't really see Tampa as an option though since they probably won't move Serg or Point. I think Dallas works great but they already have a top Defense. Washington could work, but their system is so thin it'd require moving Djoos and one of Vrana or Burakovsky to start. Montreal actually makes a good deal of sense if they want to move Hudon. Frankly, I've always thought Edmonton works with a deal built around Puljujarvi. You never know with Chiarelli.
 
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