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Is this crazy?

Créé par: Hiltop
Équipe: 2017-18 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 11 févr. 2018
Publié: 11 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Transactions
TOR
  1. McDonagh, Ryan
  2. Choix de 6e ronde en 2018 (NYR)
NYR
  1. Gardiner, Jake
  2. Leivo, Josh
  3. Choix de 1e ronde en 2018 (TOR)
  4. Choix de 3e ronde en 2019 (TOR)
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2019
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2375 000 000 $69 929 999 $5 370 000 $4 675 000 $5 070 001 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 4
925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance2 850 000 $$3M)
C
UFA - 2
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 1
6 250 000 $6 250 000 $
AG, C
NMC
UFA - 3
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
C
UFA - 5
894 167 $894 167 $ (Bonis de performance850 000 $$850K)
AD
UFA - 2
4 250 000 $4 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
4 200 000 $4 200 000 $
C, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1
2 100 000 $2 100 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 3
2 950 000 $2 950 000 $
AD, AG, C
UFA - 1
1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
863 333 $863 333 $
AD
UFA - 2
2 500 000 $2 500 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 3
736 666 $736 666 $ (Bonis de performance125 000 $$125K)
AD
UFA - 1
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 5
3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 4
4 700 000 $4 700 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 7
850 000 $850 000 $
G
UFA - 2
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 3
750 000 $750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
1 100 000 $1 100 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 3
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 1

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11 févr. 2018 à 15 h 16
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Makes more sense to the Leafs that most other posts, though Rangers fans will hate it I suspect. At Leafs the aren't stripped on future good players.
11 févr. 2018 à 15 h 21
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It’s not bad honestly, the problem I saw with McDonagh to the Leafs was most their D core are LHD, but you’ve fixed that with Gardiner going back, maybe the Rangers and their fans are looking for a bit more.
11 févr. 2018 à 15 h 32
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a team thats rebuilding trades their best asset and doesn't even get a prospect back. sheesh
11 févr. 2018 à 15 h 40
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Quoting: buchnevichh
a team thats rebuilding trades their best asset and doesn't even get a prospect back. sheesh


Look at what other fan bases are offering for McDonagh. Certainly comparable to what this Leaf post was. Seemingly it's only Rangers fans that value McDonagh so much. I guess he stays a Ranger. But I do agree with you, Rangers might be looking for prospects. At least Gardiner could be flipped at some time.
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11 févr. 2018 à 15 h 52
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Quoting: palhal
Look at what other fan bases are offering for McDonagh. Certainly comparable to what this Leaf post was. Seemingly it's only Rangers fans that value McDonagh so much. I guess he stays a Ranger. But I do agree with you, Rangers might be looking for prospects. At least Gardiner could be flipped at some time.


I see some rangers fan are dreaming with they're offers but that doesn't mean he's not going to get prospects and picks lol
11 févr. 2018 à 16 h 10
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Don't want to be mean, but my answer to the question would be: Yes, it's crazy.

I may be in the minority seeing it: Jake Gardiner is a high quality top pairing defenseman. McDonagh may have a slight edge over him (ignoring his history of injuries), but certainly not as to command a quality prospect, a first round pick and another pick in surplus. Why would the Leafs consider doing that, when they can just keep the 1st round pick and already have someone reliable filling the same spot?!

Gardiner is an outstanding skater who can move the puck well, has offensive flair, and who is in the top 15 for points among defensemen in the NHL! And, he is reliable in his zone. Babcock is not the kind of coach to trust easily, and he used Gardiner 53% of the time on defensive zone faceoffs this year. Moreover, Gardiner doesn't miss a lot of games.

A team blessed with LHDs such as Rielly-Gardiner-Dermott should be looking to keep it intact.

If moving for a defenseman, it should be to reduce the workload of Hainsey and balance things out on the right. RHDs like Trouba, Faulk, Tanev or the like.
11 févr. 2018 à 16 h 23
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Quoting: leaflet
Don't want to be mean, but my answer to the question would be: Yes, it's crazy.


If moving for a defenseman, it should be to reduce the workload of Hainsey and balance things out on the right. RHDs like Trouba, Faulk, Tanev or the like.


Just want to make a comment on the Leafs horrible defence.

I know everyone thinks the Leafs defencemen are sooooooooo bad.

Leafs have been without two of their top Dman some of the year, Reilly and Zaitsev. They have been playing at least one rookie all year, Borgman now Dermot.

Leafs are 11th in GAA in the league, and 4th in the Eastern Conference. Maybe they aren't as bad as folks think
11 févr. 2018 à 18 h 56
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To answer your question...yes... why would the leafs give up a 1st to trade a LHD for a LHD. Is McDonagh better than Gardiner? historically yes, but Gardiner has played well as of late and their advanced stats such as shot generation and shot suppression are very similar. Im not saying Gardiner is better, but the trade doesn't make sense for either team (but especially TOR)
 
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