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NYI fans do you do this trade? + TOR STL VGK PIT trades

Créé par: Dylan1995
Équipe: 2018-19 Oilers d'Edmonton
Date de création initiale: 6 févr. 2018
Publié: 6 févr. 2018
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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NYI is lacking defense and with ho sang not getting any time out there could use a fresh start I believe he'd mesh well with RNH and could bring the oilers some offence the draft picks are fair for klefbom length of contract and the steal that it is sad to see him go but I think it's a fair trade

Leivo is getting no ice time at all out there an Babcock only trust like 4 people he really loves polak I don't know why but the oilers trade cammo for him with a fair swap I've seen this on here earlier didn't mind it

STL trade maroon goes back to his home town to play in the playoffs bring you a big body player who not scared to get rough around the boards protect your player an can add some scoring

VGK the trade is interesting as I believe it wasn't the right signing for the oilers the guy is still half decent but we don't need him in our system and Vegas still needs to build a team around prospect pool talent oilers sacrifice two draft picks an Vegas trade a LTIR eligable player so oilers get some cap room

Pittsburgh trade is done by 2017 tdl oilers take on hags contract for the second an get a speedy winger for mcdavid Pittsburgh gets cap relief to sign May be kane or more room for hornqvist and the get a good right hand centre who wins faceoffs and would be perfect for there third line

ARZ trade I like strome he brings good intensity but we have no need for him now if we can keep nuge that would be perfect and strome and play with his brother Arizona gives up a high second win win for everyone
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Zadina, Filip
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Transactions
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EDM
  1. Ho-Sang, Joshua
Détails additionnels:
2018 1st round pick (CGY)
2018 2nd round pick (NYI)
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EDM
  1. Leivo, Josh
Détails additionnels:
Trade done prior to 2018 TDL
3.
EDM
    RFA rights to schmaltz
    2018 2nd round pick (STL)
    STL
    1. Maroon, Patrick
    Détails additionnels:
    2018 5th round pick (EDM)
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    VGK
    1. Russell, Kris
    2. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
    3. Choix de 4e ronde en 2020 (EDM)
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    EDM
    1. Hagelin, Carl
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    2018 2nd round pick (PIT)

    2nd for taking hags contract
    PIT
    1. Letestu, Mark
    2. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (EDM)
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    EDM
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (NJD)
    7.
    EDM
    1. Choix de 4e ronde en 2019 (COL)
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    EDM
    1. Choix de 2e ronde en 2019 (ARI)
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    6 févr. 2018 à 13 h 45
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    Love it. I'd be sold on the deal
    6 févr. 2018 à 13 h 55
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    Love it. I'd be sold on the deal


    Thanks man pains me to trade klef cause he's only getting better an he has a banging contract but JHS could mesh well with either mcdavid or nuge with his speed. Fair deal I'd say ?
    6 févr. 2018 à 13 h 59
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    the Maroon / Lettestu deals are right there and benefit both teams

    as a leaf fan the MC13 / Leivo deal doesn't work. Leivo is the better asset, and the Leafs don't need another small wing. Likely needs to be a draft pick, or take on a Matt Martin contract, and send us Kris Russel/picks type deal
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 1
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    Quoting: jluqueSF
    the Maroon / Lettestu deals are right there and benefit both teams

    as a leaf fan the MC13 / Leivo deal doesn't work. Leivo is the better asset, and the Leafs don't need another small wing. Likely needs to be a draft pick, or take on a Matt Martin contract, and send us Kris Russel/picks type deal


    2018 3rd for levio I see a diamond in the rough but he never gets to prove it sadly his trade value has lowered but I'd do a third for him. Deal?
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 1
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    Quoting: jluqueSF
    the Maroon / Lettestu deals are right there and benefit both teams

    as a leaf fan the MC13 / Leivo deal doesn't work. Leivo is the better asset, and the Leafs don't need another small wing. Likely needs to be a draft pick, or take on a Matt Martin contract, and send us Kris Russel/picks type deal


    PIT deal is sooo bad for PIT.

    Hagelin is playing great and we won't be dumping him.
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 2
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    Quoting: ShafferPens
    PIT deal is sooo bad for PIT.

    Hagelin is playing great and we won't be dumping him.


    2018 third for just letestu then ?
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    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 2
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    This is actually really good except for 2 things. I think you can fleece more from Garth Snow for Kelbom, and that Leafs say no to that trade. Would have to be a Cond 2nd or 3rd + for him
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 4
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    Quoting: ShafferPens
    PIT deal is sooo bad for PIT.

    Hagelin is playing great and we won't be dumping him.


    Your love affair for him isnt great man. Hagelin has a horrible contract. Its better slotting a guy like grabner there and taking that deal
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 4
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    This is actually really good except for 2 things. I think you can fleece more from Garth Snow for Kelbom, and that Leafs say no to that trade. Would have to be a Cond 2nd or 3rd + for him


    Third is fair for levio but let's say it turns to a second if he can record 15 20 goals? Also what do you think we can get more for klefbom this is interesting. Thanks for the input!
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 4
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    Kelfbom is worse that Hamomic. Why would his trade value be higher?
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 7
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    Kelfbom is worse that Hamomic. Why would his trade value be higher?


    Klefbom is not worse then harmonic... klefbom has a killer contract an is only going to get better younger an bigger then harmonic
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 7
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    Quoting: Dylan1995
    Third is fair for levio but let's say it turns to a second if he can record 15 20 goals? Also what do you think we can get more for klefbom this is interesting. Thanks for the input!


    That sounds about right. As for Kelfbom, I'd recommend trading him to WPG for Trouba. Tinker with that idea, seems better
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 8
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    Quoting: dirtface
    Kelfbom is worse that Hamomic. Why would his trade value be higher?


    What lmfaoo, Kelfbom is not even close to Hamonic. Way better player and not even up for discussion
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 11
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    Isles do it in a heartbeat. Ho-Sang has so much talent but Isles stash him in the minors, I guess because of his attitude.
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    What lmfaoo, Kelfbom is not even close to Hamonic. Way better player and not even up for discussion


    He's a Vancouver fan so of course he's biased against the oilers haha
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 12
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    Thanks man pains me to trade klef cause he's only getting better an he has a banging contract but JHS could mesh well with either mcdavid or nuge with his speed. Fair deal I'd say ?


    Yeah I don't particularly like how NYI is handling JHS right now because he deserves to be here. His skill is evident. This would be a trade I could live with for sure
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 19
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    Quoting: Dylan1995
    Klefbom is not worse then harmonic... klefbom has a killer contract an is only going to get better younger an bigger then harmonic


    He's not better. There are 0 stat metrics that rank Klefbom over Hamomic, his cap hit is higher, he's half an inch taller and 5lbs heavier and has no idea how to throw a hit so saying he's bigger is an oversimplification. I'll agree with the younger part but that still doesn't get that much of a return. Especially from Garth Snow who only still has his job because he keeps fleecing the Oilers in trades.
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 20
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    Quoting: dirtface
    He's not better. There are 0 stat metrics that rank Klefbom over Hamomic he's half an inch taller and 5lbs heavier and has no idea how to throw a hit so saying he's bigger is an oversimplification. I'll agree with the younger part but that still doesn't get that much of a return. Especially from Garth Snow who only still has his job because he keeps fleecing the Oilers in trades.


    Klefbom has een in the league for less time and already surprised harmonic best season by what 6 points
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 28
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    Quoting: Dylan1995
    Klefbom has been in the league longer and already surprised harmonic best season by what 6 points


    Playing on the pp with Connor Mcdavid. Klefbom is not a top defenseman in the league, he is terrible in his own zone if he had 1/4 of Hamomic's ability to take the puck away from people the Oilers would actually be in the race right now
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 30
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    Playing on the pp with Connor Mcdavid. Klefbom is not a top defenseman in the league, he is terrible in his own zone if he 1/4 of Hamomic's ability to take the puck away from people the Oilers would actually be in the race right now


    Because harmonic would push the oilers to a playoff spot right now? Haha Come on man I didn't say he's a top defender but he's 24 d man don't start showing there skill till 26-28 they take longer to develop plus all islanders fans who commented on this find it fair sooooo
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 40
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    Because harmonic would push the oilers to a playoff spot right now? Haha Come on man I didn't say he's a top defender but he's 24 d man don't start showing there skill till 26-28 they take longer to develop plus all islanders fans who commented on this find it fair sooooo


    And I asked why the islanders would give more then they got for Hamomic for Klefbom because he is a worse hockey player then Hamomic and instead of answering my question you started arguing with me.

    Just because starved for wins fans would do this doesn't mean nhl executives will see it the same. This isn't a trade Garth Snow would make. How does adding an offense driven defenseman help the highest scoring team in the league make the playoffs? They need to keep the puck out of their own net and this trade wastes most of their assets and doesn't accomplish that one thing. So why would anyone do it?
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 45
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    And I asked why the islanders would give more then they got for Hamomic for Klefbom because he is a worse hockey player then Hamomic and instead of answering my question you started arguing with me.

    Just because starved for wins fans would do this doesn't mean nhl executives will see it the same. This isn't a trade Garth Snow would make. How does adding an offense driven defenseman help the highest scoring team in the league make the playoffs? They need to keep the puck out of their own net and this trade wastes most of their assets and doesn't accomplish that one thing. So why would anyone do it?


    The fact they had two first round picks this year they can flip what they got for harmonic to get klefbom they need a good d man to move the puck besides leddy klefbom cab do this oilers can do this because they're stacked on LHD JHS is being held down to the minors thus not showing his true potential. I only argued because you said that harmonic is better then klefbom which right now he might be but that's up for debate. It's an armchair gm site of course NHL gms might not do this trade but this is quite realistic in my eyes
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 50
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    Quoting: Dylan1995
    The fact they had two first round picks this year they can flip what they got for harmonic to get klefbom they need a good d man to move the puck besides leddy klefbom cab do this oilers can do this because they're stacked on LHD JHS is being held down to the minors thus not showing his true potential. I only argued because you said that harmonic is better then klefbom which right now he might be but that's up for debate. It's an armchair gm site of course NHL gms might not do this trade but this is quite realistic in my eyes


    Why do you think they need a puck moving defenseman? Teams need that when their forwards aren't getting enough chances. That's not the islanders problem, they need a defensive defenseman and a goalie

    Nurse for Ho Sang and a 1st might be more likely
    6 févr. 2018 à 14 h 59
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    Quoting: Dylan1995
    2018 third for just letestu then ?

    Sure.

    Quoting: hazard
    Your love affair for him isnt great man. Hagelin has a horrible contract. Its better slotting a guy like grabner there and taking that deal


    Wow just wow. Look up Hagelin’s stats the last 12 or so games and you will get your answer .
    6 févr. 2018 à 15 h 4
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    Modifié 6 févr. 2018 à 15 h 18
    Quoting: dirtface
    Why do you think they need a puck moving defenseman? Teams need that when their forwards aren't getting enough chances. That's not the islanders problem, they need a defensive defenseman and a goalie

    Nurse for Ho Sang and a 1st might be more likely


    Agree with this statement, I’m friends with a lot of Isles fans, I see Leddy playing the exact same role as Klefbom on the left side, but worth more. The thing I don’t agree with is how is Nurse is arguably worth more than Klefbom at this point to the Oilers, so..
     
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