Hahahahahahahahaha Hossa for ******* Hjalmarsson? Is Hossa even going to play again? ahahahahahah. I’m sorry but “meeting the cap floor” can easily be done.

Hossa has a 1 million dollar salary but carries a 5.275 cap hit..... That is worth GOLD to a team like Arizona.

Hossa's contract is worth a ton to any team on a budget...... Bringing in Hossa would give Chayka an extra $4.275 million in cash to spend on players.. Or ownership could just save the $4.275....

Financially that trade would be a gift to Chayka...

Hossa's contract is valuable to a budget team...

I don't know what people don't understand about that.....

The first thing to do to create any type of realism is to make this deal with the Arizona roster. And it's you don't that doesn't understand the cap floor. Arizona gets the sweeteners to take on poor contracts, including LTIR, they don't give up starting NHL Dman for nothing. Arizona has numerous options to "reach the cap" if necessary rather than sacrificing NHL players.

None of that makes any sense at all when the team can save 4.275 MILLION in cash money on Hossa...

4.275 is a nice chunk of money that can be saved or can be used to sign other players...

The notion Chakya would overlook the opportunity is bonkers....

They could far more for him.

So ARI gives away a top 4D for “flexibility”?

It doesn't have to be Hjalmarsson, but you can bet Arizona would be extremely interested in Hossa's contract because it gives them an opportunity to save 4.275 million in cash money. The team spends to the cap floor for a reason...

Hjalmarsson isn't resigning in Arizona, he has one year left on his contract - he's being traded at some point..

Arizona would gladly take Hossa's contract and would give up an asset to take it...... The Hawks don't need to dump Hossa's contract so trading it would merely be a maneuver to get an asset. Hossa's contract would be gold to Arizona, so Arizona would gladly give up something for the contract...

It's only logic that a budget team would have interest in 5.275 in cap space for a million bucks..

Arizona isn't doing the Hawks a favor in this one - the Hawks are doing a favor for Arizona.

Could Arizona get on ice value for Hjamarsson? absolutely, but they'll have to take on more $$$$$$ in the process.

please share your drugs, they must be great if you think this makes sense to you

What’s your logic on Hossa for Hjalmarsson for real? ARI could get so much more and could get Hossa for a 5th.

So @HawksFan28 I AM of the opinion that Chayka should desire Hossa more than any other team out there. BUT let's keep in mind that he's still taking on $3M when it's all said and done. So...it would be one thing to include a player of negative value...like...Maybe if they had Matt Beleskey or since you're a Hawks fan...if AZ was trying to unload Bickell like the hawks wanted to do years back. In those examples yes AZ is benefiting because Hossa's salary is soo low, but Hammer isn't in this category.

(One strategy you might consider is trading Bolland back to Chicago. Just gives AZ this benefit for 2 more years....AND depending how much research you want to do...they might actually save money here depending on how the insurance works for these players/teams. CHI only has the LTIR for 1 year so they'd be down too.)

So how does this make sense??? I'm going to start at the 10,000 foot level. Would AZ take on Hossa in exchange for "Future Considerations"? The answer is no. AZ would be just asking to pay $3M that they wouldn't normally have to. Hossa doesn't play hockey anymore. There shouldn't be a debate so far. Now if there a question about Cap Floor...it's $53M this year and at the high level is ~$56M next year...even if that cap goes to $80M...the floor probably won't go up the same amount. So they're @ $46M for next year...as it stands today AND they still need 2 goalies, 3 forward, and 1 Dman for next year. IF they go the ELC route...(@ Approx. $1M roundly speaking) they're $4M from the floor. ALREADY!!! If they resign Reider or Domi or they can get to the floor without any UFAs.

The point of all of this is....The Hawks will have to give AZ something. What??? That's debatable, but Chayka isn't stupid and he's not going to do the Hawks any favors. He knows the Hawks want to shed that cap and I would expect him to use his leverage his the best of his ability...except Datsyuk was a terrible trade...so maybe you have a point! JK He probably learned his lesson.

***EDIT*** Palhal has a great point, I'm forgetting bonuses and there will certainly be bonuses with this many ELCs.

The idea that a team trade an NHLer for non playing cap space is bonkers. This seems to be your premise on these trades, it's ridiculous. For the last time, which I know you don't seem to realize, "when a team acquires cap "space like Arizona.....Arizona gets the sweetener. And Arizona still wants to be a "winning" team, they don't do by trading away NHLers is for nothing. Try making a Arizona roster, instead of standing on your current premise, and you will see how Arizona certainly doesn't have to do what you suggest to reach the cap floor. Try a 2018/19 roster but a doubt if you will do it, cause it take 10 minutes of work,.

I think you're quoting the wrong guy. I think AZ could get so much more Hjal. I find this trade silly.

Chayka was quoted last summer as having no interest in Hossa's contract.

He took on bad contracts in the past in order to get prospects or picks as well. His plan was to tank for a few years, trade for bad contracts in order to get extra picks, and be in the playoffs around now. If he keeps his GM role for next season...his original plan needs to come to fruition, right? I don't see how he can double down on the bad contract plan if it already didn't work.

I don't think some fans realize that Hammer has been a pretty big disappoint for AZ so far. They're obviously not going to trade him for Hossa's contract, and since the Blackhawks are not looking like a Cup contender I see no reason to trade for him at the TDL, but I'd imagine Chayka would listen to offers from contending teams.