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Teams interested in goalies

Créé par: Blazingbat11
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 7 déc. 2023
Publié: 7 déc. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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NMC
UFA - 5
Description
I believe this is the current situation for Allen and Primeau with regards to the Goalie market.

Allen:
I have no doubt there are teams (listed below) that have interest in acquiring Allen. The hold up imo would be on both GMs agreeing on the cost of salary retention. This seems to be a pretty big topic of discussion among GMs this year, seeing as this was one of the reasons TOR failed to acquire Zadorov.

Primeau:
An interesting case. Primeau has really struggled to make a case that he'll be a successful goalie in the NHL, but seems to still be generating a lot of interest from other teams. Scouts must be seeing something where they have the "We can fix him" mentality. Primeau certainly had (or still has) the potential to become a starter. One thing is now certain if reports are to be believed (From Friedman, Basu, and others), Kent Hughes WILL NOT waive him. At the beginning of the season, other GMs were probably playing a game of "chicken" with MTL thinking they would eventually waive Primeau, but this doesn't seem to be the case. They are going to have to pay to get him. Although I don't believe the price is that high.
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1.
MTL
    - 3rd or 4th rd pick if no retention from MTL
    or
    - 2nd or B prospect equivalent if MTL retains salary
    2.
    MTL
      - Waiver exempt "project" player or draft pick equivalent
      - AHL quality starting goaltender
      3.
      MTL
        Dark horse goalie buyer if MIN can course correct to compete for a playoff spot

        I've made another post where I suggested that MTL would be willing to take MAF. I still very much like that idea.

        https://www.capfriendly.com/forums/thread/778776
        MIN
          Allen or Primeau
          4.
          MTL
          NJD
            Primeau or Allen
            5.
            MTL
              Philly is a rumored team having interest in Primeau and the reason Kent Hughes refuses to put him on waivers. Because he's confident Briere will put a claim for Primeau
              PHI
                Primeau
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                2183 500 000 $76 051 250 $1 170 000 $4 300 000 $7 448 750 $
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                7 850 000 $7 850 000 $
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                UFA - 8
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                7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
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                3 250 000 $3 250 000 $
                AG
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                4 450 000 $4 450 000 $
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                5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
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                1 985 000 $1 985 000 $ (Bonis de performance15 000 $$15K)
                C, AG, AD
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                3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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                UFA - 2
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                1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
                C
                UFA - 2
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                950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
                AD, AG
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                775 000 $775 000 $
                C
                UFA - 1
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                775 000 $775 000 $
                AD, AG
                RFA - 1
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                4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
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                950 000 $950 000 $
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                1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
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                863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
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                RFA - 2
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                766 667 $766 667 $
                DD
                UFA - 2
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                859 167 $859 167 $ (Bonis de performance32 500 $$32K)
                DG
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                UFA - 1

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                7 déc. 2023 à 11 h 47
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                Devils don't want Primeau. Allen would be a last resort if there's nobody else at the deadline
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                7 déc. 2023 à 12 h 2
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                Quoting: pretzelcoatl
                Devils don't want Primeau. Allen would be a last resort if there's nobody else at the deadline


                The market is definitely thin on available "decent" goalies. Other than Allen, Primeau, and Blackwood in SJ. Who else is there? MAF in MIN? Vladar in CGY? Mrazek in CHI?
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                7 déc. 2023 à 12 h 18
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                Quoting: Blazingbat11
                The market is definitely thin on available "decent" goalies. Other than Allen, Primeau, and Blackwood in SJ. Who else is there? MAF in MIN? Vladar in CGY? Mrazek in CHI?


                Very thin - Detroit has three goalies so maybe one of Reimer/Lyon could be moved and I also think Nedeljkovic could be moved from PItt
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                7 déc. 2023 à 12 h 50
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                I think potential trade comps for Allen would be

                Allen at half-retained: Devan Dubnyk 2020: Dubnyk (50%)/7th for 5th

                Allen at full salary: Petr Mrazek 2022: Mrazek/25oa for 38oa
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                7 déc. 2023 à 13 h 18
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                You know nothing JS
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                Quoting: NHLfan10506
                I think potential trade comps for Allen would be

                Allen at half-retained: Devan Dubnyk 2020: Dubnyk (50%)/7th for 5th

                Allen at full salary: Petr Mrazek 2022: Mrazek/25oa for 38oa


                I love comparables,, even if there isnt a lot in Allen's case. Most goalies traded are way younger.

                MTL would never do the Mrazek trade and pay to dump him. They don't need the capspace so they could just send a goalie down in the AHL if needed. The worst case scenario, loosing Primeau on waivers, would still be better than giving up a high pick.

                IMO Allen's value is a little bit higher than Dubnyk because of the extra season. Absolute best case scenario, maybe up to a 3rd with futures (a lot available to spare) bundled with Allen. That would be KH's magic.
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