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Exploring Buch as Meier Comp

Créé par: AC14
Équipe: 2023-24 Golden Knights de Vegas
Date de création initiale: 27 nov. 2023
Publié: 27 nov. 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Transactions
VGK
  1. Buchnevich, Pavel (2 900 000 $ retained)
  2. Ellis, Colten
  3. Rosén, Calle
  4. Vorobyov, Ivan [Liste de réserve]
  5. Choix de 5e ronde en 2024 (STL)
Détails additionnels:
Meier 50% vs Buch - Read Descrip
Ibragimov - Contract not picked up by Devs but by Utica - Vorobyov
Scott Harrington - Depth - Rosen for cap reasons
G Zach Emond - Not picked up by NJD - Ellis
24 5th
STL
  1. Edstrom, David
  2. Hague, Nicolas
  3. Korczak, Kaedan
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (VGK)
  5. Choix de 2e ronde en 2025 (VGK)
  6. Choix de 7e ronde en 2026 (VGK)
Détails additionnels:
Zetterlund -> Hague +? (Zetterlund expiring RFA scoring at 2nd line rate. Hague little further along, probably a decent chance he's a #3/4 at this point)
Mukhamadullin -> Edstrom - (Muk drafted earlier in weaker draft. 20 vs 32OA for Edstrom
Andreas Johnsson (Dump) - No equivalent dump
Okhotiuk - Korczak (Pretty even after review)
23 1st - 24 1st =
24 conditional 2nd - cond 25 2nd =
24 7th - 26 7th - but due to circumstance
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2024
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2025
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2026
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $83 191 667 $0 $0 $308 333 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AG, AD
M-NTC
UFA - 5
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10 000 000 $10 000 000 $
C
NMC
UFA - 3
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2 900 000 $2 900 000 $
AG, AD, C
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 3
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5 900 000 $5 900 000 $
C
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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1 900 000 $1 900 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
C, AG
UFA - 1
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9 500 000 $9 500 000 $
AD
NMC
UFA - 4
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AG
UFA - 1
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3 000 000 $3 000 000 $
C, AD
UFA - 4
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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5 200 000 $5 200 000 $
DG/DD
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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8 800 000 $8 800 000 $
DD
NMC
UFA - 4
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4 900 000 $4 900 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 850 000 $2 850 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 5
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766 667 $766 667 $
G
UFA - 2
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5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 1
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775 000 $775 000 $
DD
RFA - 2
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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762 500 $762 500 $
AD, AG
UFA - 1
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5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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850 000 $850 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1
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762 500 $762 500 $
DG
UFA - 1

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27 nov. 2023 à 16 h 15
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Good Opinion Haver
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If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.
mokumboi a aimé ceci.
27 nov. 2023 à 16 h 20
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If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.


I tend to agree, but I also personally like this specific looking return for the outlook of the Blues.

Looking back on it at this point in time it doesn't look like SJ did terribly great. That being said, Meier didn't produce all that great in NJD the first initial season.

I'm not an expert on Vegas, but that being said something like this does fill a lot of holes for the Blues youth. But it also creates a gigantic hole on the front end for the team. Probably a rather irreplaceable one.
27 nov. 2023 à 16 h 23
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This is likely not the package I would go for, but definitely waaay better than the other one.
27 nov. 2023 à 16 h 25
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Quoting: TheEarthmaster
If someone is trading for Buchnevich and getting him at half retained he should be fetching more than Meier IMO. Meier's a little younger and I think one could argue has a higher ceiling but getting a PPG player that typically has strong defensive metrics for two playoff runs and a full regular season at 2.9million should be coming with a high asset price. I also tend to think San Jose didn't do particularly well in that Meier trade.


I disagree on that.

Meier>Buch quite clearly imo.

meier was a rental + 8 years extension
buch is a rental +rental

Meier at 8x8.8 likely has more value around the league than 1 year of Buch at 2.9
27 nov. 2023 à 16 h 27
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This is likely not the package I would go for, but definitely waaay better than the other one.


Do you mean the one that SJS received for Meier? I went through and it's about as close as I could actually get. The only indifference that could be had is Zetterlund vs. Hague. It's hard to have a real evaluation between the two and I would assume it's fairly even. Zetterlund was actually a pretty good player for New Jersey and has been decent for SJS given the circumstances.
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