DeBrincat Value Down

Still seems like alot. I don't think they will need the retention either. I don't like the idea of trading burgers. I would put that value at a first and two seconds.

Ive seen Detroit fans value Berggren very highly this summer, but I never heard of him before the summer so can only go off his boxcar stats. They seem solid enough but not particularly special. What makes you folks think so highly of him (genuine question, tone not always obvious online)?

Every fanbase has a tendency to overvalue certain prospects. Right now, it's Berggren.

IMO, Berggren's ceiling is a 2nd line player, but more likely is a good 3rd line player on a playoff team when it's all said and done. A number of fans think he'll have a career similar to Jiri Hudler.

Let's assume the market is roughly what LA paid for Dubois. So a middle 6 forward with a decent cap hit (Iaffalo) could be Kubalik or Fabrri, a young(ish) player with upside (Vilardi) could be Berggren, a B/C level prospect (Kupari) and a 2nd round pick. Now, I do think Dubois' value is higher than Debrincat given he's a big centre. But by how much? He'll be earning roughly the same money assuming 8-8.8 mil. I would have to think that Debrincat's value as of now is something along the lines of 3 assets (Roster player, decent prospect and 1st/2nd round pick). So in this scenario, Kubalik/Fabbri, Berggren and a 2nd is actually what the price should be.

Who the hell knows, just basing this off what I think and what the market has told us.

I would have agreed with you a few weeks ago, but Dorion has seriously backed himself into a corner on this one, with ADB's help. ADB controls his fate since he'll only sign long-term with a few teams, and not all of those teams can even fit him from a cap perspective. Dorion should have pulled the trigger on a trade for ADB well before now, when I think he would've gotten a slightly fairer valuation. At this point though, he's got roster spots to fill and a majority of the FA class has already signed. He just needs to move ADB to progress his roster.