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Offseason moves

Créé par: NewDG
Équipe: 2023-24 Canadiens de Montréal
Date de création initiale: 26 mars 2023
Publié: 26 mars 2023
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Signatures de joueurs autonomes
LISTE DE RÉSERVEANSCAP HIT
3775 000 $
RFAANSCAP HIT
87 875 000 $
21 000 000 $
2800 000 $
2900 000 $
87 875 000 $
UFAANSCAP HIT
12 000 000 $
CRÉÉANSCAP HIT
Smith, Will
3950 000 $
Hrabal, Michael
3875 000 $
Transactions
1.
MTL
  1. Dubois, Pierre-Luc [Droits de RFA]
Détails additionnels:
Jets want a 1st pick this year not at trade deadline for 2024 draft which has less depth. PLD signs contract extension with MTL.
WPG
  1. Dvorak, Christian
  2. Kidney, Riley
  3. Ylönen, Jesse
  4. Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (FLA)
Détails additionnels:
Value similar to Horvat trade.
2.
MTL
  1. Choix de 3e ronde en 2024 (CBJ)
Rachats de contrats
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2023
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2024
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Logo de COL
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Logo de CBJ
Logo de MTL
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2025
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2383 500 000 $69 750 833 $1 170 000 $4 752 500 $13 749 167 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 8
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7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 7
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3 362 500 $3 362 500 $
C, AD
RFA - 3
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950 000 $950 000 $ (Bonis de performance3 500 000 $$4M)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
7 875 000 $7 875 000 $
C
UFA - 8
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5 500 000 $5 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 4
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897 500 $897 500 $ (Bonis de performance557 500 $$558K)
AD, AG
RFA - 2
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2 000 000 $2 000 000 $
C, AG, AD
UFA - 1
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6 500 000 $6 500 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 4
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
AG, AD
RFA - 2
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1 700 000 $1 700 000 $
C
UFA - 2
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AD, AG
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
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4 875 000 $4 875 000 $
DG
M-NTC
UFA - 3
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3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 2
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1 925 000 $1 925 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
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925 000 $925 000 $ (Bonis de performance275 000 $$275K)
DD
RFA - 1
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1 000 000 $1 000 000 $
G
UFA - 1
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863 333 $863 333 $ (Bonis de performance420 000 $$420K)
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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1 400 000 $1 400 000 $
DG/DD
RFA - 2
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828 333 $828 333 $
DG/DD
RFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
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766 667 $766 667 $
DD
UFA - 2
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10 500 000 $10 500 000 $
G
NMC
UFA - 3
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
800 000 $800 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Logo de Canadiens de Montréal
762 500 $762 500 $
DD
UFA - 1

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26 mars 2023 à 18 h 43
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Too much deadweight for Winnipeg to take on in Ylonen and Dvorak. Take them out and add Beck.
27 mars 2023 à 13 h 22
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Quoting: Windjammer
Too much deadweight for Winnipeg to take on in Ylonen and Dvorak. Take them out and add Beck.


We're not giving you the 12-14th pick and Beck for a 2C.

Even this trade is an overpayment.
27 mars 2023 à 13 h 38
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Quoting: dougford
We're not giving you the 12-14th pick and Beck for a 2C.

Even this trade is an overpayment.


Conversely you could say of you are unbiased.

Winnipeg isn't trading Dubois for a mid first and 3 worthless pieces. Dvorak is an injured, overpaid bottom sixer, zero value to Winnipeg. Ylonen, a dime a dozen bottom sixer, close to zero value. Kidney an okay C level prospect.

I know Montreal fans constantly daydream about teams giving them very good players for their junk pieces, but it just doesn't happen. Trades need to work for both teams.

I can't remember what the original trade was, but it was even worse than this one. Kidney isn't good enough to offset the Jets taking two pieces with little to no value.

It doesn't matter to the Jets if you like it it not, they can trade PLD elsewhere and Montreal misses out.
27 mars 2023 à 13 h 49
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Quoting: Windjammer
Conversely you could say of you are unbiased.

Winnipeg isn't trading Dubois for a mid first and 3 worthless pieces. Dvorak is an injured, overpaid bottom sixer, zero value to Winnipeg. Ylonen, a dime a dozen bottom sixer, close to zero value. Kidney an okay C level prospect.

I know Montreal fans constantly daydream about teams giving them very good players for their junk pieces, but it just doesn't happen. Trades need to work for both teams.

I can't remember what the original trade was, but it was even worse than this one. Kidney isn't good enough to offset the Jets taking two pieces with little to no value.

It doesn't matter to the Jets if you like it it not, they can trade PLD elsewhere and Montreal misses out.


Everyone has no value to you. Montreal could propose a trade that involved the chance at Bedard first and Suzuki and it still wouldn't be enough for you.

Dubois averages 18 minutes TOI this season, and his underlying defensive and offensive metrics place him as a valuable 2C, which is also where he'd be playing behind Suzuki.
Anything more than Kidney and a first would be an overpayment.

As for your continued parroting that Montreal has no leverage and that Winnipeg will just trade him elsewhere... they do, and they won't.
It's just been reported that Montreal and Winnipeg have been in continuous talks about speeding up a PLD trade. PLD, apparently, wants out. And he's chosen his destination.

PLD isn't staying there, and he doesn't want to play anywhere else. Winnipeg can trade him to another team, but why is any other team willing to move assets for PLD if he doesn't want to sign anywhere long term that ISN'T Montreal.

Winnipeg has a choice. Sign him for one more year, then let him walk for nothing, or flip him for some sort of a return. They are held with a tough choice.

I know you constantly daydream about getting a KINGS RANSOM for PLD, but that simply isn't happening. Stop with the one-sided views.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/pierre-luc-dubois-could-be-a-montreal-canadien-sooner-than-expected
27 mars 2023 à 14 h 3
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Quoting: dougford
Everyone has no value to you. Montreal could propose a trade that involved the chance at Bedard first and Suzuki and it still wouldn't be enough for you.

Dubois averages 18 minutes TOI this season, and his underlying defensive and offensive metrics place him as a valuable 2C, which is also where he'd be playing behind Suzuki.
Anything more than Kidney and a first would be an overpayment.

As for your continued parroting that Montreal has no leverage and that Winnipeg will just trade him elsewhere... they do, and they won't.
It's just been reported that Montreal and Winnipeg have been in continuous talks about speeding up a PLD trade. PLD, apparently, wants out. And he's chosen his destination.

PLD isn't staying there, and he doesn't want to play anywhere else. Winnipeg can trade him to another team, but why is any other team willing to move assets for PLD if he doesn't want to sign anywhere long term that ISN'T Montreal.

Winnipeg has a choice. Sign him for one more year, then let him walk for nothing, or flip him for some sort of a return. They are held with a tough choice.

I know you constantly daydream about getting a KINGS RANSOM for PLD, but that simply isn't happening. Stop with the one-sided views.

https://www.hockeyfeed.com/nhl-news/pierre-luc-dubois-could-be-a-montreal-canadien-sooner-than-expected


Yes, I agree you only see things one way and block out everything else. Show me the quote where PLD has said that he will play for Montreal and Montreal only starting next year. The fact is, no one knows what he really wants. You should stop parroting what you've heard on internet message boards and research things that PLD has actually said.

I never said this Montreal players have no value to me, I'm saying that as a Jet fan that knows and understands what the Jets team and prospect needs are, those players hold no value to Winnipeg as they aren't better than anything Winnipeg currently has, that's all.

Myself and no Jet fan here that I have seen has asked for a King's ransom for Dubois. Just a fair deal similar or slightly more than Horvat got as a pure rental. Since Dubois is younger, better and has a full year of control. That's certainly not an unreasonable expectation.

It actually wek weakens your rebuttal when you have to exaggerate to try and make a point. Try to stick to things that were actually stated.
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