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Timo Meier trade comps

Créé par: NHLfan10506
Équipe: 2022-23 Devils du New Jersey
Date de création initiale: 25 janv. 2023
Publié: 25 janv. 2023
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Won't ever exactly align, but should be helpful in keeping things tethered to reality.

I listed three comps below that I think are useful (the third being a floor scenario).

1. Fiala = Faber, 1st = Mukhamadullin, 1st
2. Debrincat = 1st, 2nd, 3rd = 1st, 2nd, 3rd
3. Stone = Brannstrom, Lindberg, 2nd = Casey, Johnsson, 2nd


Others to stir food for thought.....

Tkachuk = Huberdeau, Weegar, Schwindt, 1st = Bratt, Severson, Thompson, 1st
Reinhart = Levi, 1st = Brennan, 1st
Rakell = Simon, Aston-Reese, Clang, 2nd = Smith, McLeod, Brennan, 2nd
Buchnevich = Blais, 2nd = Zetterlund, 2nd
Duchene = Abramov, Davidsson, 1st = Stillman, Salminen, 2024 1st
Tatar = 1st, 2nd, 3rd = 1st, 2nd, 3rd
ROR = Grigorenko, Zadorov, Compher, 2nd = Holtz, Okhotiuk, Salminen, 2nd
Havlat = Preissing, Hennessy, Barinka, 2nd = Walsh, Thompson, Okhotiuk, 2nd


Many of the deals we have been seeing are similar to (and sometimes more than) Jack Eichel or Rick Nash returns. So, if people want to use those as upper-limit bookends, I wouldn't stop them.

If there are other suggestions that you feel fit, list them below.
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    Kevin Fiala 2022

    If done at or near 2023 draft with an extension in place. If done before deadline, add either 2024 1st or lesser prospect and 2nd.
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      Mukhamadullin, Shakir
      2023 1st round pick
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      NJD
        Alex Debrincat 2022

        If Grier wants picks only. Debrincat was done at 2022 draft, this is for 2023 deadline. Debrincat had an extra year on deal, which makes up for the difference in picks.

        (*Note* this is also roughly the offer-sheet comp amount for a playing making roughly $8m)
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            Mark Stone 2019

            This is the case if Meier wants to chose where he gets dealt (by saying he will only sign there). Its unlikely it gets to this, but should be considering one bookend.
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              Casey, Seamus
              Johnsson, Andreas
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              25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 6
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              There's a mile of difference between 7OA and what, around 24th that will be the NJ 23? If you take Timo full freight, and don't send any dead cap back the other way, maybe on the grounds that Debrincat had a full season at his previous contract, is a bit younger, and would be considered the better player you could pull it off, but I would imagine its more like the 23 1st and 2nd, plus the 24 2nd.
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              25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 11
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              Quoting: GiggywithGibby
              There's a mile of difference between 7OA and what, around 24th that will be the NJ 23? If you take Timo full freight, and don't send any dead cap back the other way, maybe on the grounds that Debrincat had a full season at his previous contract, is a bit younger, and would be considered the better player you could pull it off, but I would imagine its more like the 23 1st and 2nd, plus the 24 2nd.


              Maybe so. But I think DeBrincats age, the extra year on the bridge, the value of 2022 picks vs 2023 picks, and Meier’s contract situations are all factors.



              25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 19
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              Modifié 25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 33
              If that's the case then I don't see Grier moving him.

              GMMG can't afford to lose a Meier trade with a depleting fanbase and the Sharks owner having the mentality to get back to the playoffs asap.

              Timo's agent said the possibility of staying in SJ is still very real. And if this is the return, I see Timo staying.

              A late 1st and an average defense prospect is not remotely close.

              Timo is the more impactful player than Debrincat. He's on pace for a career year and 40+ goals. Grier has offered teams to talk extension to avoid the QO. Debrincat returned 7oa and 39th oa. You're offering around 24-25 oa and a decent, if not average defense prospect. So yeah this is a little lite. Timo is a power forward and those typically return more especially for playoff bound teams and NJ would be getting Timo for an extra playoff whereas Debrincat was acquired in the off-season.

              Also, Seravalli is a bit of a dope. He's the dope that said Grier wanted three 1sts for Karlsson which Grier quickly squashed.
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              25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 35
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              If that's the case then I don't see Grier moving him.

              GMMG can't afford to lose a Meier trade with a depleting fanbase and the Sharks owner having the mentality to get back to the playoffs asap.

              Timo's agent said the possibility of staying in SJ is still very real. And if this is the return, I see Timo staying.

              A late 1st and an average defense prospect is not remotely close.

              Timo is the more impactful player than Debrincat. He's on pace for a career year and 40+ goals. Grier has offered teams to talk extension to avoid the QO. Debrincat returned 7oa and 39th oa. You're offering around 24-25 oa and a decent, if not average defense prospect. So yeah this is a little lite.


              Jersey got
              - a mid 1st
              - a mid 3rd
              - an aging bottom 6 prospect
              - an aging AHL prospect
              - an underperforming recent late first round pick

              For Taylor Hall right after his Hart season… and with the other comparables, SJ isn’t getting a haul. There is no comparable where SJ gets an absurd about of players or prospects like I’ve seen, where the closest comparable is the Tkachuk trade and Meier has no where near that value
              25 janv. 2023 à 14 h 38
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              Quoting: YeahDudeitsChris
              Jersey got
              - a mid 1st
              - a mid 3rd
              - an aging bottom 6 prospect
              - an aging AHL prospect
              - an underperforming recent late first round pick

              For Taylor Hall right after his Hart season… and with the other comparables, SJ isn’t getting a haul. There is no comparable where SJ gets an absurd about of players or prospects like I’ve seen, where the closest comparable is the Tkachuk trade and Meier has no where near that value


              NJ got Dawson Mercer and Kevin Bahl.

              How is Meier nowhere near Tkachuk? They're very comparable. And Timo takes far, far less pims. Silly comment.
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