Ryan OReilly Trade Comps

Créé par: dannibalcorpse

Équipe: 2022-23 Blues de St-Louis

Date de création initiale: 16 déc. 2022

Publié: 16 déc. 2022

Mode - plafond salarial: Basique

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McDavid, Connor

12 500 000 $ ( Bonis de performance

250 000 $)

NMC

UFA - 5

Description

Been seeing a lot of offers with Lebrun's report that the Blues are willing to listen on Ryan O'Reilly. If they move him, he's going to be a huge grab for a team that acquires him - Conn Smythe winner, 4 straight top-5 Selke finishes including a win, can play all three phases, great on the dot for what that's worth, and good all-around play. His scoring is down slightly this year, on a 40-45ish point pace, but I think you can also chalk some of that up to going from running on a line with Brandon Saad & David Perron last year to this year, where Saad and Josh Leivo are his most common line mates.

A lot of the offers posted around here have been really undervaluing him, IMO. Not a Blues fan, so apologies if I'm stepping outside my lane, but I'm gonna try and throw out some reasonable comps for what St. Louis should be referencing in a potential ROR trade, with the differences both good and bad outlined for each comp. Gonna try and pick likely landing spots for him to get a more realistic idea on the comps.

Let me know what you think about these, and how much you hate the fact that I would even think of sending out your favorite team's 1st rounder.

Signatures de joueurs autonomes

CRÉÉ		ANS	CAP HIT
OReilly, Ryan		1	7 500 000 $
OReilly, Ryan		1	7 500 000 $

Transactions

STL

Kaut, Martin
Choix de 1e ronde en 2024 (COL)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (COL)

Détails additionnels:

COMP: CLAUDE GIROUX. It's a good comp because it's recent, and features a similar player - veteran forward who is aging gracefully. Kaut fills the Owen Tippett role as a former 1st rounder who hasn't clicked yet; Florida sent a 1st a couple drafts away and the teams swapped a 2023 3rd for a 2024 5th. Colorado doesn't have a 3rd til 2025 but I think that's just window dressing and not as important

COL

O'Reilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)
Choix de 5e ronde en 2025 (STL)

Détails additionnels:

BUT WHAT ABOUT: It's not the best comp for two reasons - and you can argue either way. Giroux was still scoring at a 0.74 PPG rate, while O'Reilly has dropped to 0.5 to date, so obviously it's a bad comp. But wait! Giroux also had a full NMC that limited his market, and ROR has no such limitation - with open bidding, wouldn't ROR get a *better* offer? I think these cancel out, honestly, but I can see a case being made either way if you think one is more important than the other.

STL

Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (TOR)
Choix de 2e ronde en 2024 (TOR)
Choix de 3e ronde en 2025 (TOR)

Détails additionnels:

COMP: JG PAGEAU. This works because it's similar player - a strong defensive center who can also contribute offensively, a classic two-way guy. The 3rd was conditional based on playoff advancement; I'd keep it as non-conditional since ROR would need St. Louis to retain while Pageau needed no retention at $3.1M.

TOR

OReilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

BUT WHAT ABOUT: Again, you can make two arguments against this comp, but both are coming from opposite directions. One side could say that Ottawa was selling high on JGP - he had 24 goals in 60 GP when he was traded, a pace he has not matched at any other time in his career, before or after the trade. On the flip side, you could argue that ROR is more valuable than Pageau - JGP had a few years with down-ballot Selke votes, while O'Reilly has had 4 straight top-5 finishes in the voting, with a win. Clearly, at least in perception around the league, ROR is a superior defensive asset.

STL

Blais, Samuel
Garand, Dylan
Gauthier, Julien
Choix de 1e ronde en 2023 (DAL)

Détails additionnels:

COMP: RICKARD RAKELL

More of a slant comparison, I included this to give an idea of what a trade that sends back cap to keep everything cap-neutral for the acquiring team would look like. It's another recent comp, from last year's deadline, where Anaheim retained on RR, getting back two pending UFA bottom-6 guys, a strong goalie prospect, and a 2nd

NYR

OReilly, Ryan (3 750 000 $ retained)

Détails additionnels:

BUT WHAT ABOUT: Clearly, Ryan O'Reilly is better than Rickard Rackell. No offense meant, but I don't think you're going to find anyone really arguing against that. Right off the bat, I bumped up the 2nd Anaheim got for RR to a 1st coming back from the Rangers, but it still feels light. But the Rangers only see an extra $597K in cap coming back in this deal by sending back Blais & Gauthier.

Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire

Ryan O'Reilly: 3 750 000 $ (200%)
Ryan OReilly: 3 750 000 $ (50%)
Ryan OReilly: 3 750 000 $ (50%)

Repêchage	1e ronde	2e ronde	3e ronde	4e ronde	5e ronde	6e ronde	7e ronde
2023
2024
2025

FORMATION

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TAILLE DE LA FORMATION	PLAFOND SALARIAL	CAP HIT	EXCÉDENTS	BONIS	ESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
25	82 500 000 $	83 278 333 $	1 100 000 $	332 500 $	-778 333 $

Ailier gauche	Centre	Ailier droit
Buchnevich, Pavel 5 800 000 $5 800 000 $ AG, AD, C M-NTC UFA - 3		Tarasenko, Vladimir 3 750 000 $3 750 000 $ AD NTC UFA - 1
Saad, Brandon 4 500 000 $4 500 000 $ AG, AD NTC UFA - 4	Schenn, Brayden 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ C, AG NTC UFA - 6	Kyrou, Jordan 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ AD UFA - 1
Toropchenko, Alexey 750 000 $750 000 $ AG, AD RFA - 1	Thomas, Robert 2 800 000 $2 800 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Bitten, Will 762 500 $762 500 $ AD, C UFA - 2
Walker, Nathan 750 000 $750 000 $ AG UFA - 1	Barbashev, Ivan 2 250 000 $2 250 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Leivo, Josh 750 000 $750 000 $ AD, AG UFA - 1
Blais, Samuel 1 525 000 $1 525 000 $ AG, AD UFA - 1	Acciari, Noel 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ C, AD UFA - 1	Pitlick, Tyler 750 000 $750 000 $ AD UFA - 1
		Gauthier, Julien 800 000 $800 000 $ AD UFA - 1

Défenseur gaucher	Défenseur droitier	Gardien de but
Krug, Torey 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 5	Faulk, Justin 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 5	Binnington, Jordan 6 000 000 $6 000 000 $ G NTC UFA - 5
Leddy, Nick 4 000 000 $4 000 000 $ DG NTC UFA - 4	Parayko, Colton 6 500 000 $6 500 000 $ DD NTC UFA - 8	Greiss, Thomas 1 250 000 $1 250 000 $ (250 000 $$250K) G UFA - 1
Mikkola, Niko 1 900 000 $1 900 000 $ DG UFA - 1	Bortuzzo, Robert 950 000 $950 000 $ DD UFA - 2	Garand, Dylan 828 333 $828 333 $ (82 500 $$82K) G RFA - 3
Rosén, Calle 762 500 $762 500 $ DG UFA - 2

Laissés de côté	Liste des blessés (IR)	Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
		Scandella, Marco 3 275 000 $3 275 000 $ DG M-NTC UFA - 2
		Brown, Logan 750 000 $750 000 $ C, AG RFA - 1
		Perunovich, Scott 750 000 $750 000 $ DG RFA - 1

Équipe de réserve
Kaut, Martin 863 333 $863 333 $ (0 $$00 $$0) (425 000 $$425K) AD RFA - 1

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16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 31

NHLfan10506

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I’d say Giroux fits best, maybe with small (-).

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16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 34

dannibalcorpse

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Quoting: NHLfan10506

I’d say Giroux fits best, maybe with small (-).

The one thing that makes me think it goes over that return is because of the lack of NTC - if St. Louis can get two teams interested, they can push for a little extra. Not saying it turns into a deal for multiple 1sts, but maybe that Owen Tippett prospect turns into a more highly regarded prospect, you know?

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16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 36

Brad_Treliving

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

He may not have any clauses (ROR) but I think the Blues will want to do right by their captain and move him to a team that he wants to go to. Obviously not just one destination like Giroux but have 5 teams that he wants to go to and who ever offers the best gets the player

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16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 38

Xqb15a

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I think STL can get more for ROR because unless I missed it he doesn’t have even a limited NTC. But one thing I am super curious to see how it plays out is the limited cap space and high quality draft, does this turn into a big time buyers market?

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16 déc. 2022 à 13 h 40

NHLfan10506

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Quoting: dannibalcorpse

Giroux is the better player though.

Nick Foligno is the comp I’d use.

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Ryan OReilly Trade Comps

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