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Hindsight signings of the big 3

Créé par: treemos27
Équipe: 2020-21 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 16 mai 2020
Publié: 16 mai 2020
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
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Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
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UFA - 5
Description
Here is the rational...

Matthews: Matthews camp clearly wanted a 5 year term. They wanted two kicks at the can to cash in give him options at 27. 5 years doesn't buy any UFA years and at the time Matthews numbers, although impressive, were not quite "Elite" even though it was obvious he would soon get there.
Dubas could have said we are giving you Tavares' number because our culture is about "team" and not about 1 player being "the guy".
11 x 5 is a great deal for Matthews and it works for the Leafs. It is still a good enough offer that even if someone tried to offer sheet, the offer wouldn't have been big enough to sway Matthews away.

Nylander: The contract was fine. The way it was allowed to be signed was not. If you're the GM of a team you need to establish an appropriate culture. In this case, the word to Nylander needed to be "Here is 7 x 6, that is our final offer." We really want William on this team and you have every right to negotiate the best possible deal, but this is it. If the deal isn't signed by Oct 1st, he will sit out the season. No team in the NHL was going to beat 7 x 6 via offer sheet. Any more than that and the compensation would be 2- 1st rounders, 1- 2nd rounder, 1- 3rd rounder.

Marner: This was probably the biggest overpay and in my opinion was a simple case of a big bluff from Marner camp and Dubas fell for it a little.
Marner had a good argument, using Tavares and Matthews as comparables and threatening with offer sheets. The reality is Marner was going to be a Leaf. He wasn't going to sign an offer sheet with CLB or NYI. And if he did, you have to accept that. If a team was willing to make him the highest paid player in the NHL there isn't much you can do about that.
So.. Similar to the Nylander situation. You offer 10 x 6 which is still technically a slight overpay based on comparables and you say "You have until Oct 1."
He would sign. And if he didn't you could either match an offer sheet that would likely be cheaper than his current contract or you take the 4 1st rounders.

All in all I think Dubas did a good job. He identified his core guys, he promised to sign them all and he did. Obviously its pretty clear he could have signed some of them for cheaper. My analysis is that he could have saved about 1.5-2 mill between the 3 of them. Those who suggest he could saved 4+ mill are being ridiculous.

Thats my take
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Matthews, Auston
511 000 000 $
Nylander, William
66 962 366 $
Marner, Mitch
610 000 000 $
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TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
1781 500 000 $75 381 533 $0 $0 $6 118 467 $
Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
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3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
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Matthews, Auston
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Marner, Mitch
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2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
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11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
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Nylander, William
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
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1 250 000 $1 250 000 $
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16 mai 2020 à 11 h 45
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Matthews got the money he did because Arizona was going to offer sheet him at the max and the leafs knew that. (Per elliotte friedman)
16 mai 2020 à 11 h 45
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Dubas failed when he accepted Marner's premise that a 20 goal winger was in any way comparable to a pair of 40 goal Centres.
16 mai 2020 à 12 h 35
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Maybe I'm wrong and someone here can correct me but didn't the Leafs get 1 season of Matthews UFA years? It's a 3 year ELC and then 4 RFA years is it not?

Also Nylanders AAV worked out to $6.9M cause it was prorated or bonus heavy or whatever but had that deal would of been signed on day one of training camp the AAV would of been $7.5M so only a $600K difference but still a bit more, if his AAV was $7.5M right now I wonder if there'd be some consternation about it.
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Matthews got the money he did because Arizona was going to offer sheet him at the max and the leafs knew that. (Per elliotte friedman)


Show me a link where Elliotte Friedman said that.
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Quoting: MisstheWhalers
Maybe I'm wrong and someone here can correct me but didn't the Leafs get 1 season of Matthews UFA years? It's a 3 year ELC and then 4 RFA years is it not?

Also Nylanders AAV worked out to $6.9M cause it was prorated or bonus heavy or whatever but had that deal would of been signed on day one of training camp the AAV would of been $7.5M so only a $600K difference but still a bit more, if his AAV was $7.5M right now I wonder if there'd be some consternation about it.


Yes they did.
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