Carolina Fans -- My Thoughts in Description

MArtinez isn't exactly a fit. His underlying numbers aren't great, and his one major issue is his legs are starting to go. With skaters like Foegele, Necas, Aho, Teravaineen, Svechnikov, Dzingel who just skate around guys, Martinez isn't gonna be able to keep up. Personally, I'd rather target someone like DeMelo, and extend him, although I think the value is fair

I think "underlying numbers" have to be taken with a grain of salt when looking at anyone on the LA roster. Pretty much everyone has done better away from the team, key examples being Pearson and Kovalchuk. Granted, those aren't defenseman, but Muzzin has done pretty well for Toronto, being their one stable defender. I disagree with saying his legs are starting to go. As someone who has watched nearly every Kings game for the past 10 years, his legs are close to the same as they've always been. He's never been a burner, but he's smart with the puck in his own zone, makes a good first outlet pass, and can keep up with the play. He would also be a great PK'er, and could sub in on PP2 when needed. It certainly would be an adjustment for him moving to a faster team, but I think he could do it.

I hope you wouldn't have to give up a 1st for DeMelo!!

Thanks for the feedback.

i dont mind martinez but that's an overpay. one of the bigger insiders said that his value is around a second so sending a good prospect and a first is a overpay

You're a little outdated on your value estimation on Martinez. From the Athletic's Craig Custance yesterday:

" 3. Alec Martinez, Los Angeles Kings – There are a bunch of teams looking for defensemen – Carolina, Vegas, Toronto, Winnipeg – and Martinez is an attractive option. He’s playoff experienced. He’s reasonably priced. He’s a left-shot who can play on the right side. He has a year left.
What gets it done? One source suggested it may not include a first, but the Kings could expect two seconds and a prospect in a possible package. There’s not a lot of supply on the top-four defenseman market.
“There are probably at least eight teams going for a defenseman,” said an executive. “How many are out there? There’s going to be teams left without one.” "

That's the basis of where I started for this. With retention, taking back salary, and sending the LAK pick the other way, I upped the two second round picks to a 1st, which I thought was fair. Tieksola is ranked #15 on Scott Wheeler's list of Carolina prospects. It's not like I'm asking for Dominik Bokk.

But either way, thanks for your feedback.

i don't think that the canes would ship out a first in a deep class (especially since one of the picks will be in the lottery) and tieksola, who should be a little higher on the list but due to the amount of solid prospects isn't. Personally, the prospect would be someone like clark bishop, anton forsberg, or maybe oliwer kaski. All players that could be on a roster with kaski having good potential as a puck moving d-man

but what do I know