SalarySwishSalarySwish

The Leafs problems discussion thread

Créé par: CapFriendlysFinest
Équipe: 2019-20 Maple Leafs de Toronto
Date de création initiale: 14 nov. 2019
Publié: 14 nov. 2019
Mode - plafond salarial: Basique
Légende
Gaucher
Équipe initiale
Exempté du ballottage
Droitier
Position
Clause d'échange
Max. Bonis de perf.
Statut à l’échéance du contrat
Terme restant
Logo de Oilers d'Edmonton
Exempté du ballottageMcDavid, Connor
12 500 000 $ (Bonis de performance250 000 $)
C
NMC
UFA - 5
Description
So I am here just to have a chat about the Leafs current record of 9-7-4
Over the first 20 games the Leafs are below 500. for winning percent and things have gotten to the point were everyone is over reacting. Relax. Things ned to change but what does? I am here to look at the issues and talk about what should be stressed about and what shouldn't.

Lets start with the back up goalie situation: Relax. I am not too worried about our backup situation, Hutch never had a good team in front of him and all five of his starts he allowed 5 goals plus. Not good at all, yet he did make some big saves. That being said it was time to move on and Kask is up for the Leafs. Is he the answer? No, he won't be but getting a back up goalie in todays NHL is easy so I wouldn't be that worried in the long run. Who knows, Kask could play well enough to keep the job.

Secondly the Power Play: Meh? The problem is not who is on the power play, its how its being run. Every team in the NHL knows about the drop back pass and can just load up the blue line to prevent the flying forward moving the puck in. Secondly, once inside the zone, their attack is too predictable. With no shot from the point, the PP is shooting only from the wings which can make life for opposing teams PK a lot easier. The people on the PP don't need change though I would move JT down to the second unit to allow for a better scoring chance. Fix the movement and fix the set up and the goals will come

Thirdly the PK: Yikes. Its ugly, so ugly its now 6th last in the NHL. This needs to be fixed ASAP. The biggest problem isn't again the players its the set up. The Leafs PK is covering the right guy at the right time. A great example was vs the Burins , Capitals and Blackhawks. When you leave Kane, Ovi and Pasta on the wing completely open, arguably the three best RWs in the game, its going end up in your net. Fix the set up, and also get guys on the PK who have a cool style of play. Soup man is great for fitting int he corners but when he's on the PK and gets the puck, he kinda just freaks out and throws it up the boards hoping it gets out. Fix the set up and get that cool mojo back and it should be ok.

Babcock: Well ... Here is the thing I think about Babcock, he is a fantastic NHL Coach. He has one of the best defensive structures in the NHL and has a gold medal and Stanley Cup to his name. Heres the problem, he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game. It doesn't work, its tough to tell guys who are use to scoring every day to forget about that and play D. The team needs to know that they are a scoring team and Babcock is the last one to figure that out. He needs to change or he needs to move over. If Babcock can't figure out that Matthews or JT should be leading your team in ice cream rather than Hyman. Overall, I would give Babcock another 10 games to change. if over that 10 games, we have at least 7 wins and have been playing an offensive style of game, then keep Babcock. If not, we cannot have another season of a 1st round exit or WORST, missing the playoffs.

I want to hear what other Leafs fan think, what is your biggest concern so far and do you think we can change it all?

Also my lines are based on what I would like to see once Marner is back and healthy
Rachats de contrats
Transactions impliquant une retenue de salaire
Repêchage1e ronde2e ronde3e ronde4e ronde5e ronde6e ronde7e ronde
2020
Logo de TOR
Logo de CBJ
Logo de TOR
Logo de VGK
Logo de TOR
Logo de CAR
Logo de COL
Logo de EDM
Logo de SJS
Logo de STL
Logo de WPG
2021
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
2022
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
Logo de TOR
TAILLE DE LA FORMATIONPLAFOND SALARIALCAP HITEXCÉDENTS Info-bulleBONISESPACE SOUS LE PLAFOND SALARIAL
2181 500 000 $81 322 143 $0 $70 000 $177 857 $

Formation

Ailier gaucheCentreAilier droit
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 400 000 $3 400 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 634 000 $11 634 000 $
C
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
6 962 366 $6 962 366 $
AD
UFA - 5
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 250 000 $2 250 000 $
AD, AG
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
11 000 000 $11 000 000 $
C, AG
NMC
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
10 893 000 $10 893 000 $
AD
UFA - 6
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
925 000 $925 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 500 000 $3 500 000 $
AG, C, AD
UFA - 4
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
3 200 000 $3 200 000 $
AD
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
694 444 $694 444 $ (Bonis de performance70 000 $$70K)
AG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
775 000 $775 000 $
AG, AD
UFA - 2
Défenseur gaucherDéfenseur droitierGardien de but
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 3
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 000 000 $5 000 000 $
G
M-NTC
UFA - 2
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 000 000 $4 000 000 $
DG
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
2 750 000 $2 750 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
675 000 $675 000 $
G
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
863 333 $863 333 $
DG/DD
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
4 500 000 $4 500 000 $
DD
UFA - 1
Laissés de côtéListe des blessés (IR)Liste des blessés à long terme (LTIR)
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
750 000 $750 000 $
C
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 300 000 $5 300 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1
Logo de Maple Leafs de Toronto
5 250 000 $5 250 000 $
AD
M-NTC, NMC
UFA - 1

Code d'intégration

  • Pour afficher cette équipe sur un autre site Web ou blog, ajoutez ce iFrame à la page appropriée
  • Personnalisez les dimensions dans le code IFrame ci-dessous pour adapter votre site de manière appropriée. Minimum recommandé: 400px.

Texte intégré

Cliquer pour surligner

Commentaires populaires

14 nov. 2019 à 14 h 39
#1
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2017
Messages: 938
Mentions "j'aime": 253
1. ".. he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game."

I've heard that line many times on social media. I don't know where that idea comes from. The Leafs don't play defensively. We are among the very worst teams in goals allowed. And we have been for years. Yesterday against the Isles, the Leafs were playing offensively during the first two periods, and dominating. They lost because they make fatal mistakes in their own zone. Defensive play is their weakness.

What I don't like about Babcock is line/TOI usage. Matthews didn't play enough last year, and should have more time this year. Maybe that's what you mean by "playing defensively", but that's not the same.

2. PPs around the league score on one-timers, or because of the threat of one-timers. We have only one player on the team who can take one timers: Barrie. Aside from Matthews who has been developing it but doesn't use it consistently. The solution is simple.

3. Glad that Dubas spoke on the Ceci case. Leaf fans' subjective appreciation of our D has become preposterous. Holl is doing great, but placing him against top opposition is not going to help him, or the team. Meanwhile, Ceci has proven to be very reliable, and plays above expectations. He's not elite, and not great at zone exits. But he's the best defensive player on the roster this year. Can't afford to lose him.
GenXHockey et Trickster a aimé ceci.
14 nov. 2019 à 14 h 54
#2
Formerly Jamiepo
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 21,157
Mentions "j'aime": 10,700
Quoting: leaflet
1. ".. he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game."

I've heard that line many times on social media. I don't know where that idea comes from. The Leafs don't play defensively. We are among the very worst teams in goals allowed. And we have been for years. Yesterday against the Isles, the Leafs were playing offensively during the first two periods, and dominating. They lost because they make fatal mistakes in their own zone. Defensive play is their weakness.

What I don't like about Babcock is line/TOI usage. Matthews didn't play enough last year, and should have more time this year. Maybe that's what you mean by "playing defensively", but that's not the same.

2. PPs around the league score on one-timers, or because of the threat of one-timers. We have only one player on the team who can take one timers: Barrie. Aside from Matthews who has been developing it but doesn't use it consistently. The solution is simple.

3. Glad that Dubas spoke on the Ceci case. Leaf fans' subjective appreciation of our D has become preposterous. Holl is doing great, but placing him against top opposition is not going to help him, or the team. Meanwhile, Ceci has proven to be very reliable, and plays above expectations. He's not elite, and not great at zone exits. But he's the best defensive player on the roster this year. Can't afford to lose him.


Missed muzzin Rielly and Dermott on one timers. Don’t let Dermott fool you. He actually can load up a heavy shot.

I think it is a lot of brain farts. The systems seem to work well but a couple times a period things go to the ****s for 1 second and other teams seems to capitalize quite easily. Not sure how you fix that. It could just be something that takes time.

Matthews needs to play more... period. The Matthews and Tavares lines should have much more time than the 3rd and 4th. The Matthews line should also have more time than JT’s line.
PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood, CapFriendlysFinest, Trickster and 1 other person a aimé ceci.
14 nov. 2019 à 15 h 9
#3
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: leaflet
1. ".. he doesn't play to the Leafs skills. The leafs are a fast and skilled team and yet are playing a defensive style game."

I've heard that line many times on social media. I don't know where that idea comes from. The Leafs don't play defensively. We are among the very worst teams in goals allowed. And we have been for years. Yesterday against the Isles, the Leafs were playing offensively during the first two periods, and dominating. They lost because they make fatal mistakes in their own zone. Defensive play is their weakness.

What I don't like about Babcock is line/TOI usage. Matthews didn't play enough last year, and should have more time this year. Maybe that's what you mean by "playing defensively", but that's not the same.

2. PPs around the league score on one-timers, or because of the threat of one-timers. We have only one player on the team who can take one timers: Barrie. Aside from Matthews who has been developing it but doesn't use it consistently. The solution is simple.

3. Glad that Dubas spoke on the Ceci case. Leaf fans' subjective appreciation of our D has become preposterous. Holl is doing great, but placing him against top opposition is not going to help him, or the team. Meanwhile, Ceci has proven to be very reliable, and plays above expectations. He's not elite, and not great at zone exits. But he's the best defensive player on the roster this year. Can't afford to lose him.


Ceci being the best defensive player is a hot take for the ages. He hasn't been a pile of garbage but he also hasn't been good. He is really not at all capable of playing against top players and for being such a big guy he doesn't do very well clearing the front of the net either. He also is just hands down not good on the PK. I think if he was on the bottom pair the team would benefit greatly. Move Dermott to the right side with Rielly and that pair will be good. I think Holl has been really solid all year. He just goes out there and plays simple and smart. Personally I'd move Dermott up to the top pair, get rid of Ceci and bring Sandin back up to play on the bottom pair with Holl.
14 nov. 2019 à 15 h 55
#4
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: juill. 2018
Messages: 1,647
Mentions "j'aime": 458
Quoting: LoganOllivier
Ceci being the best defensive player is a hot take for the ages. He hasn't been a pile of garbage but he also hasn't been good. He is really not at all capable of playing against top players and for being such a big guy he doesn't do very well clearing the front of the net either. He also is just hands down not good on the PK. I think if he was on the bottom pair the team would benefit greatly. Move Dermott to the right side with Rielly and that pair will be good. I think Holl has been really solid all year. He just goes out there and plays simple and smart. Personally I'd move Dermott up to the top pair, get rid of Ceci and bring Sandin back up to play on the bottom pair with Holl.


Ive wanted Dermott to move up sooooooo badly beside Reilly but it won't happen
14 nov. 2019 à 16 h 3
#5
Banni
Avatar de l'utilisateur
Rejoint: mai 2018
Messages: 24,997
Mentions "j'aime": 7,855
Quoting: CapFriendlysFinest
Ive wanted Dermott to move up sooooooo badly beside Reilly but it won't happen


Why I don't think it'll happen is because I think Babs won't want to play Holl or Ceci on their off side and won't be willing to give Sandin a shot on the bottom pair over Ceci.

Rielly-Dermot
Muzzin-Barrie
Sandin-Holl

Is better than what we have.
Voir tout