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Forum: NHL Signings20 juin 2019 à 16 h 18
Sujet: Philadelphia Flyers signed Kevin Hayes (7 Years / $7,142,857 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>Agree - but I don't have a problem with the Tavares signing.

My biggest issue <strong>(A MASSIVE ISSUE FOR ME)</strong> is that all three of them should have been signed last summer.

I would've been fine with Dubas bending a little to make everyone happy and get it done quick (they still wouldn't have been anywhere near as expensive as they are now).

<strong>Nylander </strong>would still have been at $7,000,000 x 6 (maybe 7 years if all 3 signed around the same time - and he wouldn't have missed games).
<strong>Marner </strong>would have been around $8,000,000 x 6/7 (his agent asked for $9,000,000 on an 8 year deal last summer - according to the media).
<strong>Matthews </strong>would have been around $10,000,000 x 6/7 (similar AAV to Eichel but less term as a bonus - and a bit less than Tavares after s bidding war).

Instead they just wait it out and watch Marner play with with Tavares .... did you not expect him to explode in production ??? (Matthews took a leap in PPG as well).

And if Nylander was on Matthews wing all season ... Kapanen wouldn't have put up anywhere near 50 points ... so we would've been going into this season with something like:

$11,000,000 x 6 = <strong>Tavares</strong>
$10,000,000 x 6 = <strong>Matthews</strong>
$ 8,000,000 x 6 = <strong>Marner</strong>
$ 7,000,000 x 6 = <strong>Nylander</strong>
$ 2,000,000 x 4 = <strong>Kapanen</strong>

Which would have been around <strong>$5,000,000 cheaper</strong> with the core locked in for an extra year.

Rant over.</div></div>

Well, I think those numbers are way too low. Nylander and Hayes just signed to over $7m and you want Marner to be at $8M? But forget it, the point is moot really.
You have way too many impact forwards and not enough D. All you need is MM and AM as your superstars and Nylander and Kapanen or Johansen as your two star depth players.
I mean don't take me wrong if you can have JT and AM and MM all sign at under $7M each, ala Boston, well more power to you, but the thing is you can't, so you can't have them.

You can still keep MM and JT and AM, and KK, and AJ, you can make it work, you will have to pay to get rid of Marleau, trade Zaitzev and let Gardiner go, etc, but this superstar, top heavy team will not be sustainable. You will have to heavily rely on ELCs and you won't be getting any high picks with this superstar lineup, so just as soon as your ELCs become good enough to make an impact you will have to let them go, because you can't pay them, so its a vicious cycle.

If I were GM, I would bag Tavares to waive his NMC, trade him and acquire two excellent shutdown Dmans. I would then go to Marner and tell him, sorry for misunderstanding, give him his "A" captaincy, and match his contract with AM, with longer term. Done. Well, I'd still get rid of Zaitsev and Marleau if I could, sign all RFAs and now I'm building a team to compete for the cup from 2021 to 2025. Unless cup is not what you are after and all TOR wants is to have a Cirque du Soleil on ice.

And if you can't win with Mathews, Marner, Kapanen, Johanson plus depth, and improved D, then you probably need a better coach.
Forum: NHL Signings20 juin 2019 à 11 h 38
Sujet: Philadelphia Flyers signed Kevin Hayes (7 Years / $7,142,857 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>drewjenks</b></div><div>Nylander's signing looks great ATM ... So I'm not sure what your talking about?

<strong>He looked very out of shape at first: </strong>

3 points in his first 21 games = Horrendous (on pace for 12 points over 82 games).

<strong>But then he caught up with everyone:</strong>

24 points in his last 33 games = Pretty Good (on pace for 60 points over 82 games).

<strong>And he did that while playing: </strong>

- Around 15 minutes a night (not on the 1st power-play)
- On the 3rd line with Brown and Marleau (not Matthews)
- With 5.4% shooting on the year (50% of his career average)

Max Domi had the exact same type of season (6% shooting) before he was traded.
<strong>He bounced back real quick ... and so will Nylander.</strong></div></div>

I guess I should have been more clear, I don't have problem with Nylander at $7M. I have a problem with Nylander being at $7M on TOR team with MM, AM and JT. And of course the way this whole situation was handled by GM. Nylander was supposed to be traded after JT was brought over and when it became obvious that he wants around $7m. But to be fair JT should have never been brought to TOR on the first place and MM and AM should have been signed simulteneously, with same term at the exactly same amount. (ala Toews and Kane). That is how you build a young team and make it unified instead of bringing attention to the money and petty sh*t.
Forum: NHL Trades19 juin 2019 à 10 h 37
Sujet: (PIT/CHI) - Määttä for Kahun & 2019 5th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyplayer1</b></div><div>The players that Chicago has signed as European free agents came to Chicago because they believed they'd get a real shot at playing games in the NHL. And they all did.
Panarin, Kempny, Kampf, Rutta, Kahun, Gustafsson, Raanta, Tikhonov, Rasmussen, even Nilsson got 2 games and he's a bottom 6 AHL guy. And these are just players in the last 5 years.
Tikhonov and Rasmussen are not NHL caliber players and probably never were. But they all got a real shot at playing in the NHL with the Hawks.
Kempny had a rough go but ultimately the Hawks traded him into a position where he could excel and he has and got paid. Rutta got paid by the Hawks for no reason last year and then was traded. Raanta is a starter in the NHL now. Gustafsson struggled to get a lot of ice time under Q for reasons everyone is aware of, but he still played 41 games his first year.
The rest of the players are going to have decent and well paying careers in the NHL. That is what players are looking for when they come over from Europe as UFA.</div></div>

Some just looking for a chance, but not all by far. Panarin, Kahun, Gus, Wedin, Mikheyev and many more, they have options, in some instances as many as 20-30 teams chasing them.
Forum: NHL Trades18 juin 2019 à 15 h 49
Sujet: (PIT/CHI) - Määttä for Kahun & 2019 5th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>jasondomitrovic</b></div><div>Second time posting on this trade and the 3rd time Celebrating Christmas morning! Thank you Chicago for all that you've done to help us out in every way possible. Let's Go Pens!!!</div></div>

Wow, almost sounds like you are trying to persuade yourself. I mean, its fair deal, you are getting decent F, and CHI is getting stay home guy who can play PK and block shots. Keep in mind most of Kahun's points came from playing on top two lines and he was fairly quite on the 3rd line. CHI has a huge needs for both 1st and 2nd line wingers and yet they didn't keep Kahun permanently welded to those lines. There must be a reason for that, don't you think?
You are not getting ripped off here, but its not like you just won a Megaball. CHI won because they dead last on PK and Maatta will block some shots, and PIT won cause they got promising F at low $.
But seeing all those Ds flying off the shelf in the last 2 days, CHI can potentially flip him at draft. just saying.
Forum: NHL Trades17 juin 2019 à 15 h 26
Sujet: (PIT/CHI) - Määttä for Kahun & 2019 5th round pick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>Kahun played for Germany at worlds and Kubliak Czech. However, they did play together in Sudbury. I get what you're saing. I am indeed curious about how the European players would view CHI. Panarin is clearly an outlier, but he's not mad at all. Even bought Kane a Rolex because Bowman played him in the 82nd second game of the year (which he didn't have to). Yes it took the very last game for Panarin to make his max bonus. Kempny also got a big extension and Rutta's made Millions. I actually think they view CHI quite favorably still. no?</div></div>

Kahun, has German citizenship, but he is CZ.
Yes, Panarin did buy Kaner a Rolex, but this is because Kaner went out of his way to help him get his bonus, so did the coach, not sure about GM thou. (Kane and Bread are friends and had chemistry and that is not small thing). He never hid his dislike about being traded to CBJ, he is a professional and he wants to succeed and he knows business is business, but if you read between the lines, its obvious. Given the right circumstances would he come back? Probably. But we are not even talking about him, we are talking about others that are looking to come in.
Yes all players you mentioned, did make money one way or another, but there are some kids that want to come here to play on the team they like, not just to play in the NHL. No everyone is out for the money, otherwise Mikheyev would have never picked cap strapped TOR. (most good Suiss and KHL players make more than ELC anyways).
Just saying it will be hard to get new talent to sign, if CHI gets this sign-and-flip reputation, cause they have many options on the table, thats all.