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Forum: Armchair-GM14 janv. 2023 à 20 h 22
Forum: Armchair-GM11 déc. 2022 à 14 h 28
Sujet: Seth Jones Options if Possible
That contract termination BS is just that . . . BS. You can't do that.

No way do the Hawks keep salary for 8 years! That's really the only reason to trade him -- Davidson would probably prefer not to be weighed down by that salary when the team is competing, he needs to give raises and sign FAs and Jones is on the downside of that deal.

The only way a Jones trade will work is if the Blackhawks take a similarly sized (AAV) bad deal in return. And you need a desperate GM who is willing to throw all his eggs in for a roster currently in the window. If Jones can seriously get you a Cup, you wouldn't feel so bad about overpaying him on the downside when you're likely rebuilding.

But shopping around for a bad contract is more of how we work on armchair GM than how real GMs work. Also, to the extent the trading team is taking on salary . . . forget about any kind of decent return.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 nov. 2022 à 23 h 1
Sujet: Another Kane TDL trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hawksguy81</b></div><div>Agree 100% the Hawks will try to accommodate Kaners requested destination. But only if they get a decent package. That starts with a 2023 1st, not a 2024. Brandon Carlo is a fine player, but w/ Jones and Murphy already on the right side for the next 3 seasons after this, Carlo isn't a need. Hawks need to fill needs. Deal will need a high end F prospect like Lysall included, especially if Bruins want to include the Smith contract as well.</div></div>

the Hawks' only need right now is for high draft picks. You're right -- a 2023 first is the starting ask for any Kane trade. With NYR and their 2 firsts lurking, there's no way you get Kane without that. But Davidson is also not going to avoid picking up a good prospect because he's got Murphy on the current roster! Murphy may be traded this year, too, if someone is willing to take a good D with a bad back for 3 years . . .
Forum: Armchair-GM30 nov. 2022 à 12 h 13
Sujet: Non hawks fan
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Owen Tippett was also included, former 7th OA pick, only 22 years old at the time of the trade</div></div>

Kane is definitely a rental . . . maybe there's some circumstance where he agrees to be traded to, say, the Rangers, and then they get into a lot of discussion about long-term. But that's a long shot. I think he is traded as a rental. AND he's a pretty valuable one at that. So, yeah, the Giroux trade is a decent comp. One thing about the return: Davidson has been focused on obtaining draft capital in all these deals, and with the quality of the 2023 draft, that will be no different. I think he is much more likely to ask for 2 firsts for Kane. The Rangers would be the front-runners, since they actually have 2 in this draft.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 nov. 2022 à 15 h 33
Forum: Armchair-GM6 oct. 2022 à 18 h 52
Sujet: better drafting and asset managment
I'll pick one nit here . . . . you make a good point about asset management and better decision-making. But I think the organization we're left with, even in this revised history, is still an unfocused mess. Not your fault! But you mention "there's no need to rebuild with better management." I don't know . . .

I like where the future of the defense is heading, but at forward, not so much. That center depth looks awful. (I think there are reasons no one was willing to trade for Strome), and then, in terms of the future, are we looking at Reichel and Sillinger as the centers to build around? I guess? Not convinced that Reichel is a center yet or that Sillinger is going to be someone you write in to the top of the line-up. I think I'd rather have Nazar, but that's a lot of uncertainty either way, so this looks like a recipe for more years of on-the-playoff-bubble hockey.

Meanwhile, it leaves the prospect pool in worse shape than it is now. And that's a big deal whether this team is supposed to win this year, or next, or in 2 years. You need those guys to give you high value at league minimum deals, to trade for the big holes that will need to be filled, and to maybe fill the holes themselves. I look at this and think, what if Bowman . . . or someone else . . . what if YOU started that rebuild that Bowman claimed they were starting in 2019 and kept at it. This would be a nice step on the way to a rebuild, but if it its an argument against the rebuild, then I guess we will live with another 6 or 7 years of middle-of-the-road hockey.