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Forum: Armchair-GM1 mars à 18 h 40
Sujet: DNVR Bad Food Take
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KingofRnR</b></div><div>Myers is Garbage and cannot be compared to Sharangovich

Conroy apparently declined a 1st for Tanev because he’s not high on this years Draft, so this offers won’t get Hanifin and it’ll easily be beat

Rather get Byram in a deal for Hanifin, but I don’t see Hanifin going to COL. I could see him going to FLA and Lundell being a Target for the Flames though</div></div>

Im not comparing him to Sharangovich, I'm suggesting, like how they did in the Toffoli deal, that they may want a player they can drop into their bottom 6.

Byram for a rental is laughable so I won't comment on that.

I highly doubt that Conroy was offered a 1st for Tanev, but rejected it and accepted a 2nd and C-level prospect. That makes literally no sense
Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. à 1 h 37
Sujet: Laughton Comrie TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>As you obviously can't back up your arguments in any way other than to repeat that I'm cherry picking numbers when I've given you cold, hard facts it's no surprise you'd feel that way. There is no 'in a vacuum', it is a simple fact. He has only ever had one season with 40 points.</div></div>

Thats like saying, pre 2022-23, that MacKinnon was not a 100 point player. He had been on pace for it multiple times, but didn't hit the games played so didn't get there. Sure its a 'fact,' but its a sell-job.

And again, this whole time Ive referred to Laughton as a pseudo-2C, not a slam dunk by any means. He's clearly capable of 40 point seasons, as he's been mid-to-high 30s with a few 40s trickled him. Put him as a 2C next to Nichushkon Lehkonen, or potentially even a Rantanen, and he'd do fine - something that RyJo clearly has not done.

The reality is the Avs are a cap-strapped team, and unless they develop their own 2C (fingers crossed on Ritchie), they're not going to be able to have a true, legit 2C. Even someone like Gourde who is 5.166M next year would create a lot of challenges at that price, as much as I'd love him. Trading for someone with a little bit of term (Jenner is my first choice but CBJ fans continue to say the price is unrealistically high, Laughton is probably my 2nd choice) makes more sense in my opinion than continuing to pay a price year after year for a rental. Sure, we can Henrique this year, for what cost? And then we have the same problem next year, and have to likely pay that same price AGAIN for someone new.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. à 0 h 46
Sujet: Laughton Comrie TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>Yes you could. RyJo isn't long past achilles surgery at 4. So not sure what your point is there? Monahan 6 mil and had an injury, produced 23 points prior at a rate of 0.35 Pts per game. Bailey 5 mil and no injury, produced 25 points at a rate of 0.39 pts per game. Johansen produced 19 pts (to date) at a rate of 0.35 pts per game. Pretty damn similar. Not cherry picking numbers at all. To be fair I could argue it's more you doing that. The simple fact is Laughton has only one season where he's put up 40 points and also has only ever had one other season where he's been on pace for it. I mean if you want to argue he's been on pace at least once besides then sure, but why hasn't he achieved it? I could argue he appears to be injury prone.</div></div>

Monahan had a laundry list of serious injuries the years prior, including double hip surgery when he was traded from CGY to MTL. https://thewincolumn.ca/2022/04/03/breaking-down-sean-monahans-injury-history-and-what-happens-next/
Its not the same thing as RyJo's situation, but all you do is camp on this site and argue with people so I'm not surprised.

lol no, you're 100% cherry picking numbers. To continuously say "Laughton has only one season where he's had 40 points" is true in a vacuum, but ignores seasons such as his 27 points in 49 games. Its a sell-job from you. Sure though, you could argue injury prone yes.

PHI also reportedly turned down a few 1st round pick offers last year at the draft, but his value has likely dropped slightly since then, which is why I think the 1st + small add is probably sufficient to win the bidding war.
Forum: Armchair-GM14 févr. à 23 h 44
Sujet: Laughton Comrie TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TJTwolf</b></div><div>I could just as easily use Monahan as a comparable 1st for 6+ so Ryjo 3rd for 4 which also makes more sense if Bailey was a 2nd for 5. All of them are pretty comparable production-wise at the time of the trades were RyJo to be moved. Laughton simply isn't a 2C. He's had exactly one 40 point season which looks to be an aberration rather than a progression. The Flyers might get a 1st for him but the Avs shouldn't do it and definitely shouldn't be adding more on top imo.</div></div>

No, you couldnt. Monahan was a guy coming off major surgery at 6+. Bit of a different story there.

Laughton has only broke 40 once, but has been on pace for it more times and has consistently been on pace for mid-to-high 30s when he hasn't paced 40. You're cherry picking your numbers here a bit. With the wingers he'd have here, (Lehkonen-Laughton-Nichushkin, for example), he'd be a 40 point C at 3M.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 janv. à 1 h 11
Sujet: Lindholm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>Bo Horvat was scoring at an unsustainable rate of almost 22%. After 49 games he had 31 goals in 143 shots (also only 17 of them were at Even Strength). Lindholm as taken 116 shots this year in 44 games and has 8 goals. That means less than 7% of his shots are going in the net. Bo is also a purely offensive center whereas Lindholm is very good defensively.

Your valuations are way off here. It was widely reported that Vancouver was looking for players 25 and under for their roster. Beauvillier was valued way higher than a 4th to them. If all they needed was to make the cap work they could have retained more than 25% or taken on Josh Bailey. Also 13th in a deep draft vs 29th OA in an average draft is an astronomical difference in value. As for Raty vs Gulyayev. Again Raty was viewed as a top ~50-70 prospect in the league at the time of the trade and was widely considered a steal in the draft by NYI.</div></div>

lol alright dude, then consider the Avs out on Lindholm, by your standards. Good luck getting the return you expect I guess.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. à 22 h 34
Sujet: Lindholm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I don't view Gulyayev as that good of a prospect. Lucius despite being injury prone is a center with far more upside, and Brzustewics is currently a better prospect too. You are also ignoring the cost to take on Johansen</div></div>

Then we're just going to have to agree to completely disagree. Gulyayev is a very good prospect, not a lot of 18 year old defenceman get 16+ minutes in the KHL. Lucius to me is a big risk as he's missed a lot of development, and Brzustewics is having a good d+1 in the OHL but to say he's currently a better prospect than Gulyayev is preposterous to me.

I agree with your other comment, that a Lindholm deal will likely look similar in value to a Horvat deal, but probably lower since Bo was going OFF and Lindholm has been mid the last 2 years. I think a 1st (lower than Horvat's acquired 1st), Gulyayev (a MUCH better prospect than Raty), and a 4th (maybe a touch low, relative to the Horvat deal of Beauvillier, but Lindholm's deal will be lower). I kind of look at the 3rd round pick in that deal as taking RyJo's last year.

I think Guly 1st 4th is a very fair offer for 6 months of Lindholm.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 janv. à 21 h 29