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Forum: Armchair-GM25 avr. 2019 à 12 h 33
Sujet: Upgrading Hawks Defense Now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawk</b></div><div>Not true. Yes, defenseman take longer then forwards who come up at 18 to 20 but Keith in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th seasons had 31, 32, and 44 points at ages 22, 23, and 24 years old. At 25 he had 69 points. He started in the league at 21 years old full time. Adam Boqvist is 19 at the start of next season, will come up to the NHL the season after at 20 years old and after his rookie season will settle in at 21....a few years. Ian Mitchell will be 21 1/2 way through next year and will be full time at 21/22 the season after. Beaudin will be 20 at the start of next season and will come up the following season at 21. Chad Krys is 21 already and will play in the AHL. The next few season, the "four horseman" as they call them will all be ready full time and integrated into their roles. Add to it Jokiharju who's about to turn 20 and will be full time next year. That's 5 players who at least 4 will have a rookie season under their belts in a few years in the NHL. </div></div>

The Blackhawks won their first Stanley Cup in 2010 when Duncan Keith was 26. His first 2 GOOD seasons in the NHL were when he was 24 and 25. His first 2 seasons in the NHL were BAD. The young Dmen for the Blackhawks will be ready to compete for a Cup in the NHL in about 5-6 years when they're 24-26 and have had a few seasons of NHL experience after a few seasons of minor league experience. Don't believe me? Seth Jones is 24 and just now seriously competing for the Cup and a difference maker for CBJ. Please name a young TOP 4 blue line younger than 24 that won the Cup if you want to prove me wrong. Top 4 Dmen just don't have the size and experience to win the Cup until they're 24-26.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 avr. 2019 à 21 h 52
Sujet: Upgrading Hawks Defense Now
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>exo2769</b></div><div>The Hawks don't want PK Subban. He's a fine player, but not worth $9M.</div></div>

I actually agree with you about Subban not being worth $9m. Seabrook isn't worth $6.9m either but which would you rather have? Subban is a the top 2 Dman. Coach Jeremy Colliton wants to play man to man defense which requires that all of skaters are fast and can stay with their man all over the ice. Subban can do that. Seabrook cannot. I think Jeremy Colliton is ahead of the curve on this development of professional hockey with man to man and essentially positionless play. It's the future. More and more teams will abandon grit and size for speed and skill and the Blackhawks need to make personnel changes to get younger and faster on defense quick.
Forum: Armchair-GM7 janv. 2019 à 20 h 13
Sujet: If he hawks won the first overall pick
The thought isn't bad but the flawed logic is thinking that Seabrook would agree to a trade. Seabrook isn't going anywhere, not even to Vancouver. No one wants that contract and I think he wants to end his career as a Blackhawks player. Not even uniting the Hughes brothers on a team with a history of brothers on the Canucks and the history of a Blackhawks trade making it possible for the Sedins to play together could do it. Congratulations though, you've made the best case for a Seabrook trade outside of a compliance buyout that I've seen. The Blackhawks biggest hope to unsaddle themselves from riding Seabrook's horse into the ground remains a compliance buyout being added to the new agreement with the NHLPA after the coming lockout. Even then, they probably wouldn't use that option until they absolutely need the cap space and it would essentially be in agreement with Seabrook as his retirement. Keith will be traded before Seabrook and they won't trade Keith either. As long as McDonough is the team president, Toews, Kane, Keith, and Seabrook will retire as Blackhawks. It's an organization thing. They want the legacy of those 4 players for the brand. McDonough is huge on brand. Those 4 are going to have statues and their numbers retired. I bet McDonough was the reason for Seabrook's contract to begin with and maybe Bowman might have been responsible for the term to stretch out the cap hit? Whaddya think, Stan?
Forum: Armchair-GM3 janv. 2019 à 19 h 34
Forum: Armchair-GM27 déc. 2018 à 16 h 55
Sujet: 2019 Hawks
I like where you're heading. Young and fast skilled teams are going to be winning Stanley Cups soon. The sooner the Blackhawks can get there, the better. I hope they can tank enough for the rest of the season to land a top 3 pick and get a shot at Hughes in the lottery. If they keep starting Cam Ward over Collin Delia, it's going help them lose this season. That's for sure. Collin Delia is clearly the future for the Blackhawks - he gave up 1 goal on 36 shots vs one of the top 3 goal scoring teams in the NHL. He should be the starter for now, IMHO. The season is lost, let the young guys get some reps.

It'll be interesting to see what Bowman can trade away in the second half. I certainly hope he can get rid of Anisimov and Manning during the season. Anisimov might have to wait until the offseason when his Limited NTC expires. Manning he might be stuck with. He's probably not going to get rid of either without packaging a prospect with them a la Bickell or Sharp. Hopefully, Bowman can also pick up something for Kunitz and maybe Kruger and Davidson or even Ward and Rutta. None of those 5 guys will be back in 2019-2020 so sell. I'm happy to see that someone finally understands that Seabrook won't be traded. I stop reading every time someone has a Seabrook trade listed.

I'm interested to see what Perlini can show the rest of this season. I hope he plays a lot and proves himself. Same for Sikura. Sikura needs to prove that he can be an effective NHL player.
Forum: Armchair-GM25 mai 2018 à 13 h 30
Sujet: Adding Depth, Seabrook trade
I'm going to stop even looking at "Armchair-GM" rosters with a Seabrook trade in them. I'm a Blackhawks fan and Seabrook's contract is toxic and untradeable. It's time to accept that. Seabrook is not going to approve a trade to a non-Cup contending/rebuilding team and those are the teams that MIGHT consider taking him along with a couple prospects and/or some retained salary to make the cap floor but his contract is just way too long to be practical for even a rebuilding team to take on. He's signed 6 more years - longer than Toews, Kane, and Keith! The term was a HUGE mistake - it should have been a 6 year, $6m a year deal maximum or they should have let him leave as a UFA. Seabrook is going to be on the Blackhawks roster and count against the cap for them until one of the following 4 things happen: He's demoted to the AHL and clears waivers and chooses to retire (some of his contract will still count against the cap if he plays in the AHL), he retires from the NHL before his contract is over, he sustains an injury that puts him on the LTIR for the rest of his career, or another owners' lock out results in another compliance buyout (or two) being added to the cap structure and the Blackhawks use it on Seabrook (even then some of his contract would count against the cap). I saw one hockey analyst speculate that the Blackhawks might be able to make an attractive offer to the Seattle expansion team with some prospects to take Seabrook but I don't think that'll happen or that Seabrook would approve it plus players with a NMC have to be protected under the expansion draft rules.
Forum: Armchair-GM27 mars 2018 à 14 h 36
Sujet: Hope 1
I like it. It's practical and fits within the plan that seems to be developing. Is this a Cup contender though? I don't think it is. I hope I'm wrong.

Hoping so hard the Blackhawks win the draft lottery and get Rasmus Dahlin. Barring that, they'll still end up with a good 1st round defenseman from this draft. Henri Jokiharju will be ready in two seasons. Blake Hillman is about to sign and Ian Mitchell will likely sign in a year or two and could reform their top Denver pairing. Joni Tuulola looks interesting. Forsling should round into shape in the next season or so. All of this bodes well for the current weakness of a thin/poor defense becoming a deep strength about the end of the 2019-20 season. The problem with that is that's the last year of Crawford's contract and the last year of Quenneville's contract. It's essentially the end of the "window" with this core. I doubt Crawford or Quenneville stay after that if they're still around then. Seabrook will be 34 and Keith will be 36 and they'll still be on the books for 4 and 3 more years. Plus, that's when the expansion draft and the lockout are expected to happen. Will there even be a season? If this was a team in full rebuild mode, I'd feel fine about all of the moves to build the next wave for a Cup run in a couple of years. I feel like Bowman is of two minds that aren't serving either purpose well - the future and trying to compete now. Just about the time the young D is ready to compete for a Cup, the expansion draft happens and you lose one of them and your core (Toews, Kane, Keith, Seabrook, Crawford) basically ages out in a lockout shortened season. I have a hard time imagining they'll be ready to be a true Cup contender again until 2020. I think Bowman knows what he's doing with the young players but I'm not convinced that Quenneville understands what to do with them and how the game is changing. DeBrincat could have competed for the Calder if he'd been paired with Kane and been a Top 6 forward for more of the season. Why can't we see a skill line like DeBrincat, Schmaltz, and Kane play a few games and see what happens? Yes, they're small but speed and skill is the way the league is going. Part of me is patient and sees the youth movement plan and part of me thinks they should trade future assets and aim for win now provided Crawford returns as himself from earlier this season (trade Keith because he'll waive his NMC to go to a contender, trade Anisimov, pursue Tavares, put Seabrook on waivers or whatever needs to happen, trade for Karlsson, sign Carlson, all the crazy, unsustainable stuff to chase the Cup for 2-3 more seasons.) I just can't see how they're going to reconcile the undeveloped youth with the aging core. They lost those team drafted/developed prospect pieces in the middle to salary cap dumps/bad contracts that they probably needed to make it work: Teravainen, Danault, Leddy, Johns, Raanta.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 mars 2018 à 17 h 16
Sujet: Imagine getting Dahlin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ChiHawks34</b></div><div>firstly, the canes have so much young defenseman to the point where they need to move a few before they pay too much on the defensive side. anisimov will help their forward issue, and get a 1st for it for letting go of a defensive piece and a 4th that will probably turn out to be nothing. i think this move is great for both sides. Secondly, JVR though declining will be getting over 30 goals this year. sure 6 years may be a little long, but those first three years is what your paying for and JVR would be a huuuge improvement to our top 6. Third, Seabrook is not worthless trash. Yes his contract is horrible but you are giving the oilers an improvement in defense, a 1st and a 3rd for luciic's horrible contract iwth only one less year in term and not even paid that less than seabrook. Oilers would take this deal. if i was the oilers gm, i would take this deal hands down. i think this actually hurts the hawks more than anything.</div></div>

I agree that the swap of Seabrook for Lucic is a decent trade to address the needs of both teams and probably a good change of scenery for both. However, how would you get Seabrook and Lucic to agree to the trade when they both have full no movement clauses until the very end of their contracts? The players have to waive their NMC and I don't think Seabrook does that. He has every incentive to retire as a one-team Blackhawks legend.
Forum: Armchair-GM2 mars 2018 à 22 h 18
Sujet: Imagine getting Dahlin
I like the Dahlin idea. I'm really hoping the Blackhawks lose a lot of games between now and the end of the season, get as low in the standings as possible, and end up with a top 3 pick in the draft lottery that, if it's not #1, can be traded with the Preds 1st round pick (adding a prospect if necessary) for the overall #1 pick so they can take Dahlin. It'd solve a world of problems with the salary cap and the D for at least the next 3 seasons.

I also like Faulk but I think it's unlikely that the Canes part with their captain and leave a hole in their D to fill their need at center. I don't know their D that well though. Do they have all of their future Top 4 in the younger defenseman? I think the 2020 first rounder, while a good idea to save the 2019 first rounder for the trade deadline and a Cup push, is probably too far in the future to be dealt for both teams.

JVR for 6 seasons from age 28-34 (on the decline) at $6.5m a season would be tough to do with the needs on D, the young forwards they have for cheap that need to play, and cap management. While I think they sign Duclair, Hinostroza, and Hayden to reasonably modest bridge deals around $4m combined this off season, they going to have bigger contracts due for Schmaltz and Sikura in 2 years and DeBrincat the year after that. I think they'll try to keep all 3 of those guys through their next contracts.

The only unrealistic move is the Seabrook trade. No one is ever going to take that contract for 6 more seasons at nearly $7m a season without the Blackhawks retaining at least half the salary. It doesn't make sense for a team rebuilding that's trying to get to the cap floor until a couple more years have passed - it's too long. Plus, Seabrook has a NMC and isn't going to accept a trade to a non-contender. The only hopes to make the Seabrook contract go away are: the Seattle expansion draft in 2020 allows you to expose 1 player with a NMC, early retirement by Seabrook, or an owner's lockout and a new deal with the NHLPA that includes another compliance buyout or two. A regular buyout is even unrealistic because the Blackhawks would be on the hook for 2/3 of the contract anyway and the remaining years double against the cap, so even 4 years from now, Seabrook's contract would be counting against the cap for 8 more seasons. It's better to let him decline and retire on his own. The way he's playing, I suspect he might retire by age 36 anyway. Hopefully, he works hard this offseason and comes back a better player.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 févr. 2018 à 12 h 51
Sujet: Hawks TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ckleiner21</b></div><div>This is absolutely a valid point. His contract is an albatross. I was trying to find someone with a similar contract and Bobby Ryan is what I came up with. I was just thinking if you could move him that opens up space for a puck moving d-man. Obviously you can open up spots by trading any of Kempny, Rutta and/of Gustafsson. As for retirement, would they be on the hook for any remaining salary? I'm not positive on how that works, if he retires with years left on his contract.</div></div>

Seabrook's contract was signed after the lock out so his contract would NOT be a part of the cap recapture penalty. If there's any crazy way of looking at Seabrook's contract as a positive, it's that the Blackhawks will actually be off the hook for the rest of his contract if he retires early. So, if Seabrook retired early, they'll actually pay him less than they would have if his contract had been shorter term with higher per year salary. I doubt that was a part of the thinking (it's rumored John McDonough stepped into the negotiations for Seabrook's contract and gave him more money at max term, 8 years, when Bowman wouldn't have) when they resigned him but it would be a shrewd way of manipulating the cap if you have a secret verbal agreement with a player to retire early and still be employed by the team. There was likely some sort of veiled discussion like this surrounding Hossa's "medically necessary retirement". It greatly benefitted the Blackhawks against the cap to be able to have Hossa go on LTIR. I think both Hossa and Seabrook are grateful to the Blackhawks and would help the team in such a way. They'll be legends in Chicago for the rest of their lives.
Forum: Armchair-GM20 févr. 2018 à 12 h 42
Sujet: Hawks TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HawksFan28</b></div><div>Kempny is worth at least a 3rd.

Hartman is worth a 1st.

Anisimov is worth a 1st + 2nd (or good prospect) and a conditional 2nd round pick depending on where the team acquiring him finishes in the playoffs.

Bowman really has no reason at all to trade Anisimov or Hartman, so Bowman would be better off getting what he demands not what is offered.

I could envision Bowman taking whatever he can get for Bouma, Wingels, and Sharp tho...</div></div>

Accurate! A 3rd round pick is what they got for Kempny. I agree with the valuations for the others. I think Hartman will be back next season. He'll likely be signed to a 2 year bridge deal, lower end too, because he had a bad year after a great year, and it would have been higher if those were reversed.
Forum: Armchair-GM15 févr. 2018 à 13 h 46
Sujet: Hawks TDL
Seabrook and Anisimov both have NMCs. I don't think either one of them will waive them unless they're moving to a team with a long window of contention or closer to their offseason home. Anisimov might approve a trade to a contender like Pittsburgh. After this season, Anisimov's NMC becomes a NTC with a 10 team list that he has to submit - I don't know if that starts during the summer or after the 2018-19 season starts though. I think he's more likely traded sometime after this season.

Seabrook isn't going anywhere. His contract is too long and big to move without the Blackhawks retaining salary and I think they're more likely to wait until there's a lockout and another compliance buyout is added to the new deal, then, buy out the rest of his deal. Hopefully, Seabrook recognizes the deterioration of his skills and retires on his own within the next couple years before the Blackhawks have to resign some of their younger players so none of his salary counts against the cap.

I think the Blackhawks should get whatever they can for Bouma, Wingels, and Kempny. Patrick Sharp isn't going to help anyone in the playoffs so he'll end his career with his last game in a Blackhawks uniform this season. Reset with some younger players including Sikura and resigning Hartman and Duclair and give it another try next season.
Forum: Armchair-GM21 déc. 2017 à 13 h 7
Sujet: Blackhawks, 2017-18 Stanley Cup Contender
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyplayer1</b></div><div>Idk what people expect Karlsson to be traded for but almost no team is going to throw elite players at Ottowa for a rental. That just not how it works with rentals. Now if a team had the means to resign him next year and also thought they could win the cup this year a big trade may happen where Ottowa gets an elite player in return. But there are almost no teams in that situation.

If Ottowa expects to get more than a middle 6 guy, a 2nd pairing defenseman, a 3rd pairing defenseman, a B+ prospect, and THREE first rounders they are absolutely delusional.</div></div>

That's my feeling too. The teams that could trade for Karlsson as a rental for this season and next season, before he commands $12m a season, aren't going to give up their best current roster talent to do it or they're going to miss their Cup chances for the next two playoff seasons. However, I could see throwing 3 first round picks and enough secondary talent and minor league prospects at the Sens to make up the salary cap hit for Karlsson. The Hawks need Schmaltz and DeBrincat for a Cup run. A team that wants to trade for Karlsson to resign him long term definitely would give up current roster high end talent but, if you're doing that, why would the Sens trade Karlsson in the first place? He's the best defenseman in the league. You don't trade the thing that every team covets and few teams get, a true number 1 Norris Trophy winning dman, for other other current NHL stars, you only do it with an eye for the future.

If I'm the Sens owner and I'm not planning to resign Karlsson long term at $12m a season, I'd do a full tear down and rebuild of the team at this stage. Find a downtown location for your new stadium and start building it on your own dime. Tear down your team and get a ton of picks and prospects in return, get low in the standings and high in the draft for several seasons, and retool for a youth movement so the new team could be ready to compete for a Cup in 4 or 5 years in your new stadium.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 déc. 2017 à 16 h 14
Forum: Armchair-GM9 mars 2017 à 13 h 8
Sujet: Getting the Band Back Together 2017-18 Blackhawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Vegas may take Kruger but your logic isn't correct. There are lots of other players, mostly AHLers that Vegas might prefer. And cheaper than Kruger.</div></div>

My understanding of the expansion draft is that each team has to expose 2 forwards, 1 defenseman, and 1 goalie that meet the exposure requirements: for skaters - played in 40 NHL games in the 2016-17 season or 70 NHL games combined in the 2015-16 and 2016-17 seasons and under contract for the 2017-18 season, for goalies - under contract for the 2017-18 season.

<a href="https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-expansion-draft-rules/c-281010592" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">https://www.nhl.com/news/nhl-expansion-draft-rules/c-281010592</a>

Glass fills the goalie slot for exposure because the goalie requirement doesn't require them to have played in the NHL. Viktor Svedberg (D) and Kyle Baun (F) are the only two AHL players for the Blackhawks that aren't in their first or second year as professionals and are currently under contract for next season. First or second year players are exempt from selection and Vegas has to select a minimum of 20 players (from 30 teams) that are under contract for next season. Svedberg and Baun could be traded before the expansion draft along with TVR. That leaves only Ville Pokka (D) who is a RFA next season. Pokka was being shopped for a trade at the deadline and is another candidate to be traded before Vegas picks.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars 2017 à 16 h 55
Sujet: Getting the Band Back Together 2017-18 Blackhawks
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Kiekenapp</b></div><div>

I read an article about 2 months ago. Let me see if i can find it.</div></div>


<a href="http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-stagnant-salary-cap-drama-expected-in-2017-18-142359315.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nhl-stagnant-salary-cap-drama-expected-in-2017-18-142359315.html</a>[/quote]

Ah, well, it still appears there's a decision to be made in negotiations between the NHL and the NHLPA. That article is from Feb 5th and my quotes are from tweets out of news from the GM meeting today. Appears the NHL and GMs would like a cap increase since they announced it today and the NHLPA is likely to want a flat cap to decrease escrow. My bet is that they meet somewhere in the middle. If the NHL says $75.5m-$76m to the press, I'm betting that they're hoping for a $74.5m-$75m cap next season after negotiating with the NHLPA.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars 2017 à 14 h 20
Sujet: Chicago Blackhawks - 2017/18
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Toews2Bickell</b></div><div>Panik isn't going to be traded. Hawks found something with him. And yeah, Crawford could be moved to sign Darling at 3-4 years for 3.5-4m aav. Matter of fact, I would prefer it. But Crawford has a NMC and might not want to go to a team like Carolina who needs a goalie, and Carolina has the cap space to take on Kruger and sign Darling.</div></div>

With the announcement of the cap increase to $75-76m, I think it's very unlikely that Crawford gets moved now. Also, Crawford can be traded. I believe his M-NTC clause means he has a list of teams that he can be traded to? He doesn't have a full NMC. That came out earlier this season when they were trying to figure out extending Panarin.

I agree with exo2769 that if Saad can be traded away for not taking a reasonable bridge deal, that Panik could be too. I also agree that Darling won't sign a contract for a sign and trade deal because there's likely to be a bidding war between some teams for his services.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 mars 2017 à 14 h 9