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Forum: NHL Trades16 juill. 2022 à 15 h 48
Sujet: (PIT/MTL) - Matheson for Petry, Poehling
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Matheson was terrible in Florida but was really turning it around in Pittsburgh. I am really interested to see how he works out in Montreal now because it will show whether or not it was him figuring it out or something systemically that the Pens were doing to help him exploit his value. Lot of term at a big aav though to take that risk.

Petry has been good in the past but is old and in decline, but if last year was an abhoration then who knows this could be great for PGH but again a mid term at a very high aav carries a lot of risk.


Just an interesting trade all around with a lot of potential downside for all inolved.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>biased_leafs_fan</b></div><div>AND HABS FANS WANTED BOURQUE + A 1ST 😂😂😂😂</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>Can't say I'm super satisfied with the return, but we're far from the days people were saying it'd take a 1st to offload Petry.

The market was set by McDonagh &amp; Petry - teams are too tight to the cap and MTL didn't want to retain. Poehling was going to be lost on waivers as well.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>While im happy Matheson is gone im not happy we in a sense replaced Marino with Petry.

Would have preferred it if we never signed Rutta and went with

Dumo-Letang
Petey-Petry
POJ-Marino</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wqrrior</b></div><div>The winner of this trade depends on what version of Matheson MTL gets.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aadoyle</b></div><div>I find Pittsburgh's system often brings out the best in players. Remember how good Ceci was for them. Now often these guys once they leave see a regression. Now for Matheson I dont think its gonna be a big one but I feel hes gonna be between what he was in Florida and Pittsburgh</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div><blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="zxx" dir="ltr"><a href="https://t.co/1xIuWpvZqg" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">pic.twitter.com/1xIuWpvZqg</a></p>— CanadiensFan (@GuhleSzn) <a href="https://twitter.com/GuhleSzn/status/1548390772113694720?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">July 16, 2022</a></blockquote>



Poehling is a throwaway player.

So it becomes Matheson + 4th for Petry.

Matheson is 6 years younger and signed for 1 more year than Petry, costs $1.4 Million Less and will likely remain as a top 4 defensemen throughout his entire contract wheras Petry will likely start regressing in the next 2 or 3 years. I do like this trade for Montreal, but I voted fair trade because I think both teams do well here.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Capitalfail67</b></div><div>Penguins GM should have just called off today....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>A_Habs_fan</b></div><div>Steal for Pittsburgh, id much rather have Petry than Matheson, Petry may be more expensive but he’s better than Matheson and I don’t like the term on Matheson</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vmark</b></div><div>Well there you have it. Now our D is stacked. This isn't the last move. But I'll take Petry and Smith over Matheson and Marino every day of the week and twice on game night. Matheson's defensive positioning was atrocious. Marino was overrated as ****. Now we have a guy who is a legit top pair player and a high upside offensive guy who can certainly at the very least pull off a good Matheson impression.

Hexy is on one boys</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>majormoose007</b></div><div>I would've kept Marino and Matheson over Smith and Petry</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>don't understand this trade for pittsburgh. first they traded their young, defensive rhd for a younger, offensive lhd. then they trade a two-way lhd in his prime for a more expensive, over the hill offensive rhd.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stones6160</b></div><div>I’ll be honest, I don’t get this trade for either side

Petry is the older Dman, had a okay but not a good season, makes more money
Poehling is screwed, Pittsburgh is not the right place to go if he wants any chance at a thorough career

Matheson is very hit or miss, had a better year than Petry yes, but is still shaky, 4 years left could cause trouble for younger Dman to get into the roster, if he falls back to Florida Matheson, good luck Habs</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>KSIxSKULLS</b></div><div>Petry is also 34 and is signed longer term which is sketchy. Obviously Petry is the better player, but we get younger and more cap space. Poehling was terrible last year and would've gotten claimed on waivers this season. It's a good deal.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sidney_crosgoat</b></div><div>I really don't know what to say about this</div></div>

I have no words. Hextall has single-handedly reconstructed the penguins defense core with a couple old guys in letang, petry, and ruuta and one struggling young guy in smith… once again we have no cap space
And <strong>WE STILL HAVE 9 DEFENSEMEN!!!</strong>
Forum: NHL Trades7 juill. 2022 à 14 h 32
Sujet: (NYR/COL) - Georgiev for 2x 3rd, 1x 5th
this is officially the Avalanche's "we're sorry for ever trading you away Chris Drury please accept our apologies".

There had better be an extension already worked out for Georgiev around $2 million AAV for at least 4 years in place.

What I do like about this setup is the age progression:
Francouz 32 years old - 2 years under contract
Georgiev 26 years old - ? years under contract
Annunen 22 years old - 1 year remaining under ELC then RFA.

Francouz-Georgiev tandem for the next 2 years then Georgiev-Annunen tandem after that?

If someone gets hot and takes the crease then great.

In any situation we have a cheap (AAV) goaltender setup.

From this point on, I think we need to draft/develop our goalies and stop spending that much draft capital unless it is a trade deadline deal due to LTIR issue.
Forum: NHL Signings7 juill. 2022 à 13 h 6
Sujet: Pittsburgh Penguins signed Kris Letang (6 Years / $6,100,000 AAV)
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Nqutilus</b></div><div>The AAV would be fine if it were like 1 or 2 years, but 6 years? My god…</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>sensonfire</b></div><div>Can someone explain to me why Letang needs 6 years instead of 3?


The term on this extension is abhorrent.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BlackwoodForVezina</b></div><div>6 years???</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mcdeeznuts</b></div><div>The NExt Zdeno CHara</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>Someone help me out here, cuz I honestly don't know. Because he's 35, if he retires prior to the end of his deal his full cap hit remains? Is that correct, or am I way off here?

I have never fully understood retirement recapture and don't really want to put in the work tbh.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Stones6160</b></div><div>Did Hextall not learn that giving a Dman a boatload of Money until they are like 40 doesn’t work, like Suter, Weber, Heck even Brent Seabrook and Duncan Keith, I don’t get it</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mr_z</b></div><div>hahahah hope the Pens fans crying that he'd only sign for 4+ over $8m are happier with this anchor lolol</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BluesFan81</b></div><div>That's way too much term holy....</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>weirfanno1</b></div><div>Yikes the performance decrease will happen and that cap hit till he is 41 even yikes. This is one of those buyout contracts down the road. And the next GM of the Penguins scratches his head to the previous GM....


YIKES!</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PraVin26</b></div><div>That definitely is a contract</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Missouri</b></div><div>Hell yeah!! Who cares about term!! We got him locked in!!! GO PENS GO</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Devil</b></div><div>Penguins: How much term do you want?

Letang:
<img class="for_img" src="https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/031/727/cover10.jpg" alt="cover10.jpg"></div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HonestHockeyNYI</b></div><div>This contract is like J.R never left the Pens.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>nf9</b></div><div>That term…</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SevenLeg</b></div><div>No matter how little the AAV is, the term is so awful.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>Adding onto this point: if this contract was signed with the intention of him not playing out the full six years (ie going on LITR and becoming a trading asset), that sounds a lot like cap circumvention.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>ColonelX</b></div><div>That's like Vlasic bad.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheresAlwaysNextYear</b></div><div>Way too much term. He’s 35. Would’ve been excellent 5 years ago</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>fullblowncaniac90</b></div><div>a little less AAV than i expected but wow that term is BRUTAL</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mondo</b></div><div>This is going to age very badly.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>You'd have to be on drugs to think this was a good idea. What are you doing hextal?????

Term was the most important part of the negotiation here, not aav</div></div>

<strong>WHAT IN THE ABSOLUTE HECK IS GOING ON HERE???</strong>