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Forum: Armchair-GM8 janv. 2019 à 16 h 9
Sujet: Overrated Underrated and Best from Each Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kopiino</b></div><div>I personally don't think Horvat is overrated (of course it's completely subjective though). He will be a low-middle tier 1st line C or high tier 2nd liner if he can sure up his defensive game. I don't like to think that Edler is underrated just because he's not seen as much more than a solid middle pairing guy, which is totally fair. I'm not completely sold on Petey yet, and he's gonna need to hold up his form for longer to consider him the best in Vancouver. Just not a good move to have a rookie at #1 because of how little there is to go off of (unless it's a McDavid level player)

Weber is still better than Petry (I'd assume you were referring to Petry), but Montreal is a tough one because to me it's between Gally and Weber. If Gallagher stays where he is, he has the potential to be their best play when Weber really begins to decline, but for now his stats are just too good.

Ovi could go as overrated, yes, but he shouldn't. He has stepped down his game a LOT (i.e. he doesn't drive play at all anymore), and he's still a trainwreck on D, but you can't deny his shot and his physicality that haven't gone anywhere. Still the best LW in the league for now.

Kuch and Hedman are very close, but for me Hedman takes the cake. I can understand it going either way, especially since it's not easy comparing a winger to a defenseman.

For STL it was between Schwartz and Pietrangelo. Tarasenko needs to move and prove he still has it before I could consider him the best for them (which is a weird statement because he would be gone but go with it). Senko still just hasn't sold it to me this season and I know that he has the potential to be the elite winger he was a few years ago, but he needs to get out of St. Louis to prove that. Pietro and Schwartz is kinda similar to the Hedman/Kuch deal. Schwartz is a top 15 LW and Pietro is a top 5-10 RD, so it comes down to what position you value more, and I tend to value the d-men higher personally.</div></div>

Yeah if it's not far off there's not much to argue. Being overrated also refers to whatever your exposure to positive praise of the player is, and that can surely differ. If you asked me to pick out the best player on the Habs I'd pick Gally. Tarasenko and Schwartz are in such a weird spot, they're not even shooting 10% - combined.

Players that are primarily goal scorers are always weird. They usually get away with not driving play. Kuch and EP are pretty solid at both, where I rate the former as the far and away best winger for the last 3-4 seasons combined.
Idk if stats are you deal, but I immensely enjoy the fact that EP has the lead in Manny's shooting WAR above Skinner, Stamkos, Ovi, Laine, Matthews, Point etc this season - in that order.
I understand if there are questions about his ability to keep it up, but what he's done so far he's been able to back it up with a great shot, great shot selection and as good playmaking at this point. He was the best player in the third best league in the world last year. Not a good player, not hyped because he's young, but the actual best player, and has improved since.
Forum: Armchair-GM8 janv. 2019 à 13 h 51
Sujet: Overrated Underrated and Best from Each Team
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BeastMode5515</b></div><div>Bam. Right here. Pasta is an absolute great player, and is an absolute machine offensively, but man is he not very good at defense. Marchand, on the other hand, is extremely defensively sound and doesn’t usually make many screwups.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MelonVK</b></div><div>Pasta isn't looking that poor defensively though. I'd say Marchand is very much a net positive in his own end, Pasta doesn't do much right or wrong in his own zone defending, but pretty solid NZ stick check and both are monsters on the breakaway</div></div>

If anything I'd say Marchand is underrated defensively.

And I agree that while Pasta isn't the strongest defensively, he isn't awful either.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. 2019 à 0 h 54
Sujet: Top 10 Each Position
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>moli92</b></div><div>wow i guess gallagher is also better than ovechkin then... in fact ovechkin is probably one of the worst wingers in the league according to those stats. This is where analytics are flawed.</div></div>

That’s why you use eye test and analytics to judge players, not only one or the other. Ovi scores a lot of 5v5 goals, has a huge positive effect on team offense when he’s on the ice, doesn’t drive play anymore but he still scores 50 goals The reason that people are so hard on Rantanen is because he hasn’t proved that he can do it on his own he has a ton of secondary assists. Ovi has proven that he can produce on his own, he scored 40 goals playing on a line with Jay Beagle and Joey Crabb. When Rantanen can either prove that he can drive a line or he adds some defense to his game most people will probably have him in their top 10.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 janv. 2019 à 0 h 35
Sujet: Top 10 Each Position
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kopiino</b></div><div>Because you don't know how to come to conclusions. Gallagher is a proven better player going both ways and Kane, carrying dead weight at some points, still proves better stats. Kane carries an offense (i.e. playing with Schmaltz very often, and schmaltz was allergic to shooting). Kane is a franchise level player, there's no argument possible for him to fall anywhere out of the top 3 yet. Plus, you cant copy links on that site, but im sure you only looked at this year for your "argument", and you can still see that Kane is better offensively</div></div>

This. I just looked and it seems to me that Kane and Gallagher crush Rantanen in every catergory when you look at the largest sample size (2016-2019)
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