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Forum: Armchair-GMmar. à 22 h 19
Sujet: My Radical Trade Proposal To The Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>edeangel84</b></div><div>There is no replacing MP and I admit the defense is clearly worse. I do not think the bottom six is worse though. Trenin is an upgrade over Smith at this point and Kampf is certainly no worse than Acciari. Marner is a 90-100 point winger who has always been counted on to be one of the leaders. In this team he does not have to worry about that and I think the guy would only benefit from getting out of the Toronto media world.</div></div>

I didn't say I thought the bottom 6 was worse, I said it's not better. Trenin and Kampf are another pair of defense-only guys. We tried that this year and it didn't work. We could keep Raks - He played well with Bunts &amp; Geno, and was playing hurt - and add another top 6 winger like DeBrusk or a 3C like Roslovic. If we want to have a decent chance, our depth needs to be better, whether that's from acquisitions or young guys like Ponomarev, maybe even Yager if we're lucky, making an impact. I like Trenin quite a bit, but I don't think he's an upgrade to Smith and I don't think he's a significant impact. On a team with good depth, he and Eller are probably 4th liners. And they're both much better than everyone on that 4th line.
Forum: Armchair-GMdim. à 1 h 3
Sujet: Youth and Compete
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>I get what you are saying but I'm just telling you how it really works.
1st year they just don't do this.
Look at DOC first real year here. 46 games last year. He had 25.6 minutes in PK time.
That isn't because there were no penalties it's because they don't put 1st year players on the PK unless they have to.
Baring injury, someone else will most likely fill that last PK role, at least until the 2nd half of the year. That's what history tells us.
They want younger players to focus on other things. Learn where to be, play off the puck, how to adjust to the speed of the game.
Even with Poulin being in the system so long, he's had so little time at the NHL level. In two years he doesn't even have 50 minutes of ice time.
That's not going to make them want to put him on the PK.</div></div>

Blueger was our top PKer in his first full season. It's more common for defensemen to get time, like Marino and to a lesser extent Shea. Both Gruden and St Ivany had decent PK time in their NHL stints this year. There have been instances throughout Sully's tenure where rookies have had a role on the PK. I'm sure I can find more if I go back further, but that becomes less relevant. And like I said, we still have Rust (or Nieto if he's healthy) for that last spot if they don't want to have rookies on the PK.
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 18 h 1
Sujet: Crosby and Malkin
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Wreckless</b></div><div>Savard retires before Letang.
Eventually Reinbacher, Mailloux, and Letang form our right side D.
Defensemen get injured also, you need depth.
“Just cuz he’s French Canadian”…Letang’s deepest bond to anyone outside of the Penguins organization is with Kent Hughes.
And it’s way deeper with Hughes than with Dubas or new ownership. Just saying…</div></div>

Eventually being the keyword. Montreal has a lot of defensemen at or near NHL caliber. There's probably going to be time where you have to choose between keeping someone NHL ready in the AHL or lose a good player on waivers.
You focused a lot on Hughes vs Dubas when the real bonds within the Pens are with Crosby and Malkin. Is Hughes important enough to Tanger to break those three up? I don't think so.
And that doesn't change the fact that this trade isn't in the best interest of the Penguins.
Forum: Armchair-GMsam. à 16 h 34
Sujet: 24-25 Leafs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>kous</b></div><div>When you factor in that Mitch is just hitting his prime now and can be locked up for another 8 years for a total of 9 I would say yes.

The Pens are going to need to rebuild, retool what ever you want to call it very soon.

Dubas make a mistake with the Karlson trade so he will need to do something to try and make the playoffs</div></div>

There's no guarantee Marner sticks in Pittsburgh long-term. I actually think he won't if he comes here. The Pens would be trading their captain, a top 5 NHL player of all time, who is still one of the NHL's best at the age of 36, plus a 1st and their top prospect for a guy who isn't guaranteed to stay for longer than a year. Surely that would help the rebuild.

Because Marner won't do that. Acquiring him takes valuable assets away from that rebuild, and then gives us a player that is good enough to keep us away from the best picks but not good enough to turn what the Pens are going to be in a few years into a playoff team. We have nothing. No blue-chip prospects, no young, homegrown talent. Just Marner and a bunch of holdovers that aren't young enough, good enough, or valueable enough to get assets for. Mediocre: the worst thing a professional sports team can be. Too good to rebuild, to bad to contend and stuck there.

Then there's the issue that our center depth sucks. Pens fans complained about Malkin as much as Leafs fans complain about Tavares. I think he's still good enough, especially with good wingers. Then below Geno on the depth chart is Lars Eller, Noel Acciari, and a couple guys with limited/no NHL experience. Real contender there, that Eller might be there 2C.

I don't think Karlsson was a mistake. There's still time for him to help right the ship, especially with Todd Rierdan out and the Pens with some youth and cap space to work with. This trade immediately sets that ship on fire and starts a city-wide mutiny. If you think there is a single thing it does that is in Pittsburgh's best interest, you're not thinking.