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Forum: Other Leagues20 juill. 2023 à 17 h 2
Sujet: If the NHL expands to Europe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>European Hockey Association
New League with economics and level of play between AHL and NHL to replace the void of the KHL.

Player salaries would be minimum of € 100k. Team salary cap of € 28,000,000 and max salary of € 5,550,000 per player.

Two way contracts would work between the NHL and EHA just like with NHL-AHL. None of the EHA teams would be "affiliated" with an NHL team; but they can get loaned players for development purposes or sign their own players to direct contracts. Basically they would be just like the Chicago Wolves are going to be.

This would entice European born players to stay closer to home; and vice-versa with North American players displaced by European players in the AHL.

All in-game rules and roster construction would be the same as NHL (just with different figures as listed above).

The future goal would be convert the arenas to NHL size arenas so European players, coaches, and executives can develop for the NHL game.

No rules about the # of foreign born players or % of in-country nationals on the team (as the current Euro leagues often do).

Minimum arena size would be 12,500 for the economics to work.

8 cities to start the league would be chosen with future expansion based on success.

Cities/metro areas are chosen based on economy, population, arena availability, hockey market size. Local hockey talent is not an important factor just "market size" for fans/sponsorships/TV media. Think LA Kings, Dallas Stars, Nashville Predators, mixed in with Toronto, Minnesota, Boston, Montreal type markets; but not places like Quebec or Halifax where the economics make it really hard to compete financially against bigger markets.

<strong>Original Cities:</strong>
Stockholm, Sweden
Helsinki, Finland (if arena ownership gets resolved: play temporarily in Tampere until this is done).
Cologne, Germany
Berlin, Germany
Mannheim, Germany
Copenhagen, Denmark (with Malmo, Sweden as co-host)
Zurich, Switzerland
Prague, Czechia

<strong>Guaranteed Expansion targets:</strong>
London, England (O2 Arena)
Paris, France (Accor Arena)
Vienna, Austria (new ice arena expected 2025-26); (paired with Bratislava, Slovakia as co-host)
Milan, Italy (new ice arena expected for 2026: Olympics)

<strong>Strong Expansion targets:</strong>
Munich, Germany (new ice arena expected 2024)
Gothenburg, Sweden
Oslo, Norway (if <a href="https://www.iihf.com/en/news/39205/three_applicants_for_2027" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Telenor Arena conversion</a> is completed by 2027)

<strong>Possible Expansion targets:</strong>
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Brussels, Belgium
Glasgow, Scotland
Hamburg, Germany
Zagreb, Croatia
Bern, Switzerland (small immediate market but very large economy and hockey market)
Tampere, Finland (small market/economy but very large hockey base).

<strong>Fringe Targets:</strong>
Riga, Latvia
Belfast, Northern Ireland
Manchester, England
Turin, Italy
Krakow, Poland
Lodz, Poland
Katowice, Poland
Budapest, Hungary
Sheffield, England
Nottingham, England
Kaunas, Lithuania

<strong>Unavailable Expansion Targets:</strong>
Moscow, Russia
St. Petersburg, Russia
Minsk, Belarus
Kiev, Ukraine
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Astana, Kazakhstan
<strong>Targets without sufficient Arena:</strong>
Dublin, Ireland
Belgrade, Serbia
Bucharest, Romania
Gdansk, Poland

Examples of Available Players:

<strong>Forwards</strong>
Joakim Nordström Victor Rask Loui Eriksson
Jonathan Dahlén Oscar Lindberg Andreas Johnsson
Tom Kühnhackl Emil Bemström Andreas Martinsen
Patrick Thoresen Pontus Holmberg Sven Andrighetto
Valtteri Filppula Jori Lehterä Janne Kuokkanen
Juho Lammikko Sakari Manninen Sven Bärtschi
Liam Kirk Markus Granlund Martin Frk
Oskar Steen Henrik Borgström Martin Kaut
Kaspars Daugavins Dominik Kahun Rudolfs Balcers
Filip Hållander Lias Andersson Nils Höglander
Damien Brunner Lucas Wallmark Alexander Nylander
Alexander True Frans Nielsen Mikkel Bødker
Frederik Storm Peter Regin Dominik Bokk
Lukas Sedlak Roman Cervenka David Desharnais
Dmitri Jaskin Radim Zohorna Stephane Da Costa
Gregory Hofmann Enzo Corvi Lino Martschini
Antoine Roussel Gaetan Haas Tomas Jurco
Andrew Agozzino Zach Boychuk Peter Cehlárik
Michael Raffl Cedric Paquette Marko Dano
Marian Studenic Alexandre Texier Borna Rendulic
Shane Prince Adam Gaudette Nic Petan
Tobias Rieder Adam Tambellini Martin Pospisil

<strong>Defense</strong>
Jacob Larsson Anton Stralman
Christian Djoos Jonas Holøs
Lawrence Pilut Yannick Weber
Michal Kempný Raphael Diaz
Robin Salo Sami Vatanen
Sami Niku Julius Honka
Ville Heinola Olli Juolevi
Dean Kukan Andrej Sustr
Kristians Rubins Libor Hájek
Lucas Carlsson Mattias Norlinder
William Lagesson Leon Gawanke
Mirco Müller Milan Jurcina
Sean Day Michal Cajkovsky
Simon Després Samuel Knazko
Michael Del Zotto Martin Gernat

<strong>Goalies</strong>
Mikko Koskinen
Jonas Johansson
Reto Barra
Oscar Dansk
Harri Säteri
Magnus Hellberg
Joey Daccord
Louis Domingue
Jean-Francois Berube
Erik Källgren
Adam Huska
Olle Eriksson Ek
Henrik Haukeland
Patrik Rybar
Simon Hrubec
Kristers Gudlevskis</div></div>

I came up with some team names for a potential pan-European league. Most of these are either work of a google translation, a football team being in the same city, or they were rumoured to join the KHL.

London Emperors - London, GBR
Paris Saint-Germain HC - Paris, FRA
Vienna Schwarz Adler - Vienna, AUT - translates to Vienna Black Eagles
HK Hnede Medvede Bratislava - Bratislava, SVK - translates to Brown Bears
EHC Bayern Munchen - Munchen, DEU
Goteborgs HK - Goteborg, SWE
Oslo IHK - Oslo, NOR
Jarvet Tampereeen - Tampere, FIN - translates to "lakes"
Amsterdam IHC - Amsterdam, NED
Lions de Bruxelles - Brussels, BEL
Hamburg Freezers - Hamburg, DEU
Medvescak Zagreb - Zagreb, CRO
EHC Bern Kuhe - Bern, CHE - translates to Cows
Glasgow Snipers - Glasgow, GBR
Dinamo Riga - Riga, LAT
Belfast Wildcats - Belfast, GBR
Patriot Budapest - Budapest, HUN
Torino HC - Turin, ITA
Huttwil Helvetics - Huttwil, CHE
Oliva Gdansk - Gdansk, POL
HC Geneva Cerfs - Geneva, CHE - translates to deers
SG Dynamo Dresden - Dresden, DEU
Manchester Rapids - Manchester, GBR
Vetra Vilnius - Vilnius, LTH - roughly translates to storm
Espoo Blues - Espoo, FIN
Ilves Tallinn - Tallinn, EST - translates to lynx
Stockholm IHK - Stockholm, SWE
Helsingin Jaakiekkoseura - Helsinki, FIN - short form "HJS", translates to Helsinki Hockey Club
Kolner Piranhas - Koln, DEU
Mannheimer Falken - Mannheim, DEU
Zurich Fuchse - Zurich, CHE - translates to foxes
HK Kamzik Praha - Praha, CZE - translates to chamois
Forum: Other Leagues4 juill. 2023 à 19 h 38
Sujet: If the NHL expands to Europe
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HockeyScotty</b></div><div>European Hockey Association
New League with economics and level of play between AHL and NHL to replace the void of the KHL.

Player salaries would be minimum of € 100k. Team salary cap of € 28,000,000 and max salary of € 5,550,000 per player.

Two way contracts would work between the NHL and EHA just like with NHL-AHL. None of the EHA teams would be "affiliated" with an NHL team; but they can get loaned players for development purposes or sign their own players to direct contracts. Basically they would be just like the Chicago Wolves are going to be.

This would entice European born players to stay closer to home; and vice-versa with North American players displaced by European players in the AHL.

All in-game rules and roster construction would be the same as NHL (just with different figures as listed above).

The future goal would be convert the arenas to NHL size arenas so European players, coaches, and executives can develop for the NHL game.

No rules about the # of foreign born players or % of in-country nationals on the team (as the current Euro leagues often do).

Minimum arena size would be 12,500 for the economics to work.

8 cities to start the league would be chosen with future expansion based on success.

Cities/metro areas are chosen based on economy, population, arena availability, hockey market size. Local hockey talent is not an important factor just "market size" for fans/sponsorships/TV media. Think LA Kings, Dallas Stars, Nashville Predators, mixed in with Toronto, Minnesota, Boston, Montreal type markets; but not places like Quebec or Halifax where the economics make it really hard to compete financially against bigger markets.

<strong>Original Cities:</strong>
Stockholm, Sweden
Helsinki, Finland (if arena ownership gets resolved: play temporarily in Tampere until this is done).
Cologne, Germany
Berlin, Germany
Mannheim, Germany
Copenhagen, Denmark (with Malmo, Sweden as co-host)
Zurich, Switzerland
Prague, Czechia

<strong>Guaranteed Expansion targets:</strong>
London, England (O2 Arena)
Paris, France (Accor Arena)
Vienna, Austria (new ice arena expected 2025-26); (paired with Bratislava, Slovakia as co-host)
Milan, Italy (new ice arena expected for 2026: Olympics)

<strong>Strong Expansion targets:</strong>
Munich, Germany (new ice arena expected 2024)
Gothenburg, Sweden
Oslo, Norway (if <a href="https://www.iihf.com/en/news/39205/three_applicants_for_2027" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">Telenor Arena conversion</a> is completed by 2027)

<strong>Possible Expansion targets:</strong>
Amsterdam, Netherlands
Brussels, Belgium
Glasgow, Scotland
Hamburg, Germany
Zagreb, Croatia
Bern, Switzerland (small immediate market but very large economy and hockey market)
Tampere, Finland (small market/economy but very large hockey base).

<strong>Fringe Targets:</strong>
Riga, Latvia
Belfast, Northern Ireland
Manchester, England
Turin, Italy
Krakow, Poland
Lodz, Poland
Katowice, Poland
Budapest, Hungary
Sheffield, England
Nottingham, England
Kaunas, Lithuania

<strong>Unavailable Expansion Targets:</strong>
Moscow, Russia
St. Petersburg, Russia
Minsk, Belarus
Kiev, Ukraine
Tashkent, Uzbekistan
Astana, Kazakhstan
<strong>Targets without sufficient Arena:</strong>
Dublin, Ireland
Belgrade, Serbia
Bucharest, Romania
Gdansk, Poland

Examples of Available Players:

<strong>Forwards</strong>
Joakim Nordström Victor Rask Loui Eriksson
Jonathan Dahlén Oscar Lindberg Andreas Johnsson
Tom Kühnhackl Emil Bemström Andreas Martinsen
Patrick Thoresen Pontus Holmberg Sven Andrighetto
Valtteri Filppula Jori Lehterä Janne Kuokkanen
Juho Lammikko Sakari Manninen Sven Bärtschi
Liam Kirk Markus Granlund Martin Frk
Oskar Steen Henrik Borgström Martin Kaut
Kaspars Daugavins Dominik Kahun Rudolfs Balcers
Filip Hållander Lias Andersson Nils Höglander
Damien Brunner Lucas Wallmark Alexander Nylander
Alexander True Frans Nielsen Mikkel Bødker
Frederik Storm Peter Regin Dominik Bokk
Lukas Sedlak Roman Cervenka David Desharnais
Dmitri Jaskin Radim Zohorna Stephane Da Costa
Gregory Hofmann Enzo Corvi Lino Martschini
Antoine Roussel Gaetan Haas Tomas Jurco
Andrew Agozzino Zach Boychuk Peter Cehlárik
Michael Raffl Cedric Paquette Marko Dano
Marian Studenic Alexandre Texier Borna Rendulic
Shane Prince Adam Gaudette Nic Petan
Tobias Rieder Adam Tambellini Martin Pospisil

<strong>Defense</strong>
Jacob Larsson Anton Stralman
Christian Djoos Jonas Holøs
Lawrence Pilut Yannick Weber
Michal Kempný Raphael Diaz
Robin Salo Sami Vatanen
Sami Niku Julius Honka
Ville Heinola Olli Juolevi
Dean Kukan Andrej Sustr
Kristians Rubins Libor Hájek
Lucas Carlsson Mattias Norlinder
William Lagesson Leon Gawanke
Mirco Müller Milan Jurcina
Sean Day Michal Cajkovsky
Simon Després Samuel Knazko
Michael Del Zotto Martin Gernat

<strong>Goalies</strong>
Mikko Koskinen
Jonas Johansson
Reto Barra
Oscar Dansk
Harri Säteri
Magnus Hellberg
Joey Daccord
Louis Domingue
Jean-Francois Berube
Erik Källgren
Adam Huska
Olle Eriksson Ek
Henrik Haukeland
Patrik Rybar
Simon Hrubec
Kristers Gudlevskis</div></div>

Absolutely love this idea, I may even come up with some mock rosters after the NHL's silly season. As much as Champions HL is considered the big european league, I think something with a full regular season would be very cool.
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