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Forum: Armchair-GM18 janv. 2018 à 7 h 18
Sujet: John t
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>youiswhatyouam</b></div><div>OEL is, without a doubt, a much better defenseman than Severson. </div></div>

Yeah, I mean I suppose we differ in that I do believe Butcher will be a passable middle pairing guy. I believe Greene likely can still play top 4, but not top 2 at all. If your top 2 is OEL and Vatanen, thats on par with many other teams, really better than most. I won't debate further what you think it takes to get him, because I keep repeating what the ask is according to the media. I believe the actual return for him will be less than the ask. It almost always is.

The other thing that is key to my argument here, don't forget I added JT. Is that realistic? I dont know. I think theres an 80 percent chance he just returns to Long Island, but this is hypothetical. If youre running JT AND adding OEL... then it absolutely is a Cup contending team next year. Yep, they could ice a better defense. But it doesnt matter if youre running a generational center and then Nico who is merely a great center, and Hall who is a top 3 LW in the league IMO. Ask the Penguins.

OEL is just that good. Hes a number one defender. There probably arent 12 true number one defenders in the league, and basically no team has won the Cup in the last decade without one. The Pens kinda did last year, but Schultz played way over his head and made up for it IMO.
Forum: Armchair-GM17 janv. 2018 à 19 h 3
Sujet: John t
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>youiswhatyouam</b></div><div>Sorry, man. I love the Devils but there's no way that's enough for OEL, who is definitely a guy you overpay for. Plus, using Severson to upgrade to OEL is like 3 steps forward, 1 step back. We need a few upgrades to the defense and it would be a hard pill to swallow to lose our best defenseman just to gain a new best defenseman.</div></div>

Its not a hard pill to swallow. He is good but OEL is a clear upgrade. He is a number 1 defender, full stop. Further, Severson plays the right side where we are stronger. If you look at my roster thats the idea. Greene is no longer a top pairing guy so you need a new guy on the left side up top. Besides... if its 3 steps forward 1 back... thats... still... 2 forward? Thats how any trade of value works, you lose something good to get better. If you meant 1 forward and 2 back as the saying usually goes, its absolutely not.

Whether its enough or not, thats up for debate. I really dont think a team gives them two impact players from their roster and a 1st rounder as is being reported as the ask. The thing that devalues him is that hes under contract for one more year and theyre obligated to make a move somewhat soon. If they can do it before the deadline this year a team gets two playoff runs with him. Not many teams can make that move either in my mind.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Smitty426</b></div><div>Would a Vatanen + adds be of interest</div></div>

This is an option I have heard thrown around by fans as well. I would consider this too. Its the same concept as what I did, though I debate how much better Vatanen really is than Severson. Hes better no doubt, but Severson is younger and on a longer contract which I think presents value.
Forum: Armchair-GM1 mai 2017 à 8 h 52
Sujet: Kovy to the Isles
For starters, the Bolts got more than that with a guy who straight up came out and said he would only play for the Rags. Unverified reports state he wants to stay in one metropolitan area, or one state. Not quite the same.

The Devils still hold all the cards here if he wants to play in the NHL next year. If the return is merely a 2nd, I would simply sign him to a one year deal and move him at the deadline for likely better. If not he can stay in Siberia another year until he is a UFA. I dont think that is what he is going for right now. A guy in his position isnt really in a place to dictate the terms of his return. I do believe he and Ray Shero work together to find a fit, and I do think that the Isles are a good location for him to go. I just dont believe a pittance gets you that much scoring help.