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TkachukNorris79

TkachukNorris79
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Forum: Armchair-GM8 févr. à 21 h 26
Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. à 10 h 35
Sujet: Cup Contender Next Season
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>WN88</b></div><div>Not sure if that’s entirely accurate though. Considering this package would consist of them getting back a top 4 RHD and forward depth (and a 1st round pick), it would be hard to see him getting much more than that anyways. And it pretty much perfectly fits the description of what Sens would want in a return.

I’m really not too sure as to how valuable fans think Chychrun is? He was acquired for a 1st and two 2nds, and that was when he had 2.5 years on his contract.</div></div>

Sure but not all 1st rounders are equal. At the time, it was clearly a pick between 10-16 going the other way. It ended up being 12th, which is probably worth two of Toronto's late 1sts, or at least their 1st+Robertson. Liljegren is worth another 2nd?

2023 OTT 1st &gt;&gt; 2024 TOR 1st
2024 WSH 2nd = Liljegren
2026 OTT 2nd = Robertson

Then look at what Lindholm and Monahan just got as rentals. You don't think a top pairing defenseman signed for 1.5 years at $4.6M would get more?
Forum: Armchair-GM7 févr. à 5 h 11
Sujet: How Do We Not Win the Cup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Julius_Freezer</b></div><div>are you braindead? A 1st and 2 2nds is what it took to get Chychrun from ARZ, since then his play has declined and his team friendly contract expires next season, I'd listen to an argument that there needs to be more for both of them since there's retention on both (could be a 3rd team involved to retain on Tarasenko instead) but to say that all of this isn't worth Chychrun alone is one of the most stupid things I've ever heard.</div></div>

A) I'm not sure where you see that his play has declined, he's been pretty darn good in Ottawa so far.

B) not all 1st round picks are the same. Ottawa traded a pick that was guaranteed to be between like 10-15, which is probably worth 2 of Vancouver's 1sts right now. So that offer for Chychrun alone is probably closer than both of them as the cost of Vlad is a 1st as well.

I honestly don't think I would accept that for Chychrun alone, not because the overall "value" isn't there, but because they can move him and get a single more impactful piece instead of 4 pieces unlikely to ever make any impact in the NHL, a late 1st next year (player won't make a real impact for 3 more years) and a late 2nd in 2026 who won't touch an NHL roster until 2029. Nevermind the cost of them using a retention spot.

Quality over quantity, especially when you're trading a top pair defenseman.

No way Chych ends up there, but I could see them looking at Vladdy if he'd go there (why wouldn't he right now)
Forum: Armchair-GM3 févr. à 17 h 39
Forum: Armchair-GM2 févr. à 7 h 32
Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. à 13 h 44
Sujet: Yay or Nay Rumoured Costs on Deadline Acquisitions
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeynutter</b></div><div>There is rumoured interest, and part of it is paying 8 million for 3 left handed defenseman is tough to quantify. It is hard to gauge what the asking price would be and the one listed is more a starting point.
At the starting point I would think it's a great trade but there is also a high chance of rival tax which then I would easily say no to such a trade.</div></div>

Yeah I just think Ottawa and Toronto will never make a trade with a significant piece involved for that reason. Phaneuf was the closest we'll get lol

We gave up 12th overall and 2 2nds for him, so should be able to get similar back, likely a little less.

Considering your 1st should be in the 20s, Robertson and Minten probably make it close, minus a rival tax