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Forum: Armchair-GM18 déc. 2022 à 0 h 38
Sujet: Team Additions Without Changing Too Much
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheDynastyGM</b></div><div>This guy gets business ^</div></div>

The retention argument is always a fascinating one to see people make for deadline trades. It's like they didn't think about it at all

Retention has value due to 2 factors. Actual cost, money, and opportunity cost, the cap space they are retaining could have been used elsewhere. At the deadline, the actual cost is minimal since very little of the season is retaining. It's also going to be forced on you by any team making the trade...no contenders can fit O'Reilly's full 7+ mil cap hit in their cap picture. There's no value there since the money is minimal and you are going to be forced to do it regardless of who trade with. The opportunity cost is also nil as if they are moving O'Reilly, the season is already over for them.
Forum: Armchair-GM18 déc. 2022 à 0 h 19
Sujet: Team Additions Without Changing Too Much
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mokumboi</b></div><div>Except I'm not asking for multiple 1sts. I'm not asking for anything. I'm saying what isn't getting go to get him. Not at all the same thing.

And can we please stop acting like everyone isn't also asking for max retention? Every time one of you guys pulls out this "You guys are asking for the moon" stuff, the retention and any of the other things people keep asking for conveniently gets magically vanished when you frame the question.

That's before we even get to all this clinging to a 10 game slump that ended six weeks ago. As if that puts him on clearance or something. And the fact that the Blues are not even in sell mode yet. Ya know, we're kinda using our captain at the moment. All this whining because somebody won't hand over their 1C playoff beast for the stuff you want to give away (as opposed to what they might actually want). How dare they!! Don't they know everyone only exists to placate Leafdom!!

Sheesh already.</div></div>

You aren't asking for multiple 1sts but you are asking for more than 1. It's quite relevant what you think the player who has been twice as effective or more this season will fetch compared to the player you are asking for more than the 1st + prospect for.

Retention isn't worth anything at the deadline unless its a 3rd team being brought in or multiple seasons worth of it. It's actually very little money remaining and is the cost of doing business. The trading team retains to get the best deal available. They aren't going to take a lesser package back because they won't have to retain for the 2 months remaining in the season that they've already given up on. It's a non-sense argument to make.

O'Reilly hasn't been your 1C this season. He's been your 2C for 2 seasons now behind Thomas (time on ice verifies this) and has lost even more of that time on ice this season compared to last. Your '1C' is playing a full 2 minutes less than he was 2 seasons ago. Don't come in here with that bull****. O'Reilly is no longer a 1C on a competitive team in the league and the Blues(and everyone else) know this.