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Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 57

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>with extension: see stones deal last year. without extension: a little more than what cbj gave for duchene because hall is the better player. Marner with a contract isnt equal to hall with a contract in my mind. goal scoring winger is worth more than playmaking winger.</div></div>

Sure, I agree Hall is the better player. Then the trade would have to be without extension which is what I thought at first, just added the “ideally” part in at the end because obviously that would be ideal.

So Duchene got a 1st and a conditional 1st (that everyone knew was extremely unlikely to be met) . That begs the question: is Marner’s value the same as a retained Subban, a late 1st, and the difference between Hall and Duchene?

Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 28

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>how much retention was on the deal when they traded for subban? Thats why it wasnt much... we both agree he isnt worth trading for at 9.5 but you think he doesnt carry value at 5.5? thats a joke.</div></div>

Subban retained at nearly 50% still isn’t worth Marner. What do you think Hall’s trade value at the deadline would be?

Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 21

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>except its not marner for 2 years of subban retained its marner for hall with a contract extension and a top 4 dman for cheap due to massive retention. No you are way off on valuation. a realistic hall trade WITH a contract extention if you want subban is marner dermott and kapanen might need to throw a pick in as well to entice devils for hall, subban NO RETENTION, and simmonds.</div></div>

I said ideally for Toronto they have a deal in place before the trade. Didn’t say it was a must. I’d settle for no deal in place and just taking their chance. Do you remember what the Devils traded for Subban? Not much at all.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 13

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>this isnt marner vs hall. its marner and nothing for hall, a 3rd/4th line nhl caliber winger with grit and a top 4 right shot dman that can actually play the game of hockey.

If i were a devils fan, i trade hall to the western conference for picks or young ASSETS. Petan and Ceci ARE NOT ASSETS LEAFS FANS.</div></div>

Petan and Ceci certainly aren’t assets. They’re in the trade for cap reasons.
Again, Hall isn’t resigning. Would you rather lose him for nothing, or trade him at the deadline for a 1st and a prospect? Then trade Simmonds for a 4th or 5th? NJ didn’t give up much for Subban and he isn’t playing great for them.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 10

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MikeyThePensFan</b></div><div>Devils decline, Hall is better than Marner and Subban is better than Ceci. Simmonds is better than Petan.</div></div>

I don’t disagree with the Devil’s players being better. But if you look past this season (one where the Devil’s probably don’t make the playoffs) then the trade looks like Marner in his prime locked up for 2 years of a retained Subban. Seems stupid for NJ not to accept? Maybe i’m wrong.

Forum: Armchair-GM25 oct. 2019 à 14 h 6

Sujet: Big trade bigger parade read description

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hanson493</b></div><div>this has to be the worst attempt at a hall trade ive seen yet. Cmon man. do better. please tell me how when you typed out number 1 rw bottom dman and depth player out and number 1 lw number d and bottom 6 power forward, you didnt think "WOW THIS IS HORRIBLY LOPSIDED".</div></div>

Would you rather have Hall for a season where you wont make the playoffs or would you rather have Marner for 6 years in his prime while your other core players are also in their prime? Pending UFAs don’t fetch the highest return in trades

Forum: Armchair-GM11 déc. 2016 à 4 h 16

Sujet: Time to contend

I saw you proposed a Tanev for Eberle trade. Kapanen is 6 years younger than Eberle, he fits the age of the rebuild for Vancouver and he'll be putting up similar numbers as Eberle. They're pretty comparable players. Your proposal is what gave me the idea. Also Leipsic is 22 years old and has 27 points in 22 games in the AHL this year, pretty impressive.

Forum: Armchair-GM11 déc. 2016 à 4 h 16

Sujet: Time to contend

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Watty1</b></div><div><i>NO on the Tanev trade! No way. No chance. Give us Kadri or Nylander straight up and you have a deal. Think of Hall for Larsson - Tanev is better than Larsson. You're damn right he'll improve your defence - he's emerged as one of the best shutdown guys in the league. If we're going to decimate our defence by trading him we better be getting the top 2 centre we need in return. Otherwise, it's gotta be a combo of Kapanen, Gauthier & 1st or Kapanen & Bozak kinda thing. And no, Jake isn't included. Jake for Kapanen is interesting, but if Jake figures it out, I'd take him over Kap & Leipsic combined.</i></div></div>

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