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Forum: Armchair-GM17 mars 2022 à 10 h 45
Sujet: What would it cost for Dvorak
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vr1995</b></div><div>why would a team pay the same price you did when hes been waay worse than when you got him? now with less term also. chiarot was a massive overpay and everyone knows it</div></div>

thats beside the point. I was making the point that a player isnt worth less now simple because its been 6 months since he was traded. Habs dont have to move him, i'd be fine with him staying so why would they move him for a less? He also hasnt been wayyy worse he has been injuried and his numbers are on an almost identical track to what he put up last year if he had played a full season.

Couple that with how dysfunctional the habs start to the season was and i think most teams would still see him as the player he was last summer. Anyways dont need to jump into the same rabbit hole for each habs player.

Chiarot's return was almost bang on to what Hughes was reportedly asking for. So its irrelevant if you think its an overpay or not, the only way Dvorak gets traded is for a solid package, theres no reason to just give him away.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 févr. 2022 à 13 h 52
Sujet: petry
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Lenny7</b></div><div>Shea Weber is the prime example of you being on the wrong end here. Players age, they get slower. When they get slower, they need to make quicker decisions. Superstar players? Sure, the speed thing might apply as much to them, but Jeff Petry ain't no superstar.</div></div>

if you think Weber is an example of Petry's future than the rest of your statement in moot. They play a very different style of game Weber always relied on his physicality in the defensive zone and his offensive production came mainly from his point shot. Petry is a much better skater, has the ability to skate the puck up the ice both things that werent strengths of Weber. Mobile defensemen age better than physical dman. If you've watched petry play this season its very clear that the decrease in production and effective play seem to be a case of motivation and not a decline in his skating. He has no drive and he routinely makes mistakes due to a lack of attention to detail, i do think you will see a much different petry once he is traded whether that is too dallas or a different US market.
Forum: Armchair-GM24 janv. 2022 à 10 h 9
Sujet: if holland wasnt gm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CD282</b></div><div>You overpaid for Ullmark and massively overpaid for Chychrun. Oof.

And the general valuation of Toffoli on this site is ridiculous. Over the last 3 seasons he hasn't been much better than Kassian. He comes with a higher cap hit too, yet he's apparently worth an arm, a leg and a couple of vital organs while Kassian is a cap dump? :tearsofjoy

5v5 G/60, 2019-20 - 2021-22
Toffoli: 0.99
Kassian: 0.78

5v5 P/60, 2019-20 - 2021-22
Toffoli: 1.92
Kassian: 1.80

5v5 Primary Points/60, 2019-20 - 2021-22
Toffoli: 1.52
Kassian: 1.45

<a href="http://naturalstattrick.com/playercompare.php?fromseason=20192020&amp;thruseason=20212022&amp;stype=2&amp;sit=5v5&amp;score=all&amp;stdoi=std&amp;rate=y&amp;p1=8475178&amp;p2=8475726&amp;loc=B&amp;gpfilt=none&amp;fd=&amp;td=&amp;tgp=410&amp;lines=single" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">NST</a>

This season Toffoli's scoring has dropped way off, he's scored just 1 goal at 5v5 in 29 games so far. So I think Habs fans should readjust their ask to something that reflects reality. Not that Edmonton would be very interested in Toffoli, but someone would be.</div></div>

They dont have to trade him, he was hurt for a good chunk of the year, the entire team has been garbage i'm not worried about a small sample size 29 games. I feel pretty confident in what we have in toffoli, a 20-30 goal scorer on a team friendly contract, theres no reason to move him unless its a solid package. Hes worth more to the habs than that offer.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 29
Sujet: MTL TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>Chiarot will land at least a 1st and 3rd, price is not just returning a 1st. He gets a 1st, a former 1st round pick that worthy of that selection (ex. Bourgault), a B goalie prospect ( konovalov)
And a 2nd or a B forward/defense prospect. So in this package of chiarot and price and I would add a 3rd, the Habs should get: Broberg, 1st, bourgault, konovalov, Lavoie. That's the price</div></div>

they would never get close to that. If that was the fair market value for price seattle wouldve just selected him in the draft and moved him. The fact they didn't even want to touch that should tell you all you need to know.

I love price he's been responsible for pretty much everything positive that the habs have done i n the last 10+ years. but his contract, age and injury history is something every team will take into account. He had a great playoff one and showed that he still has some elite play left in him, but he also showed he cant take on a heavy load during the season which mean any team landing him will still want a decent backup on top of that. Most competitive teams could never have 14mil in goalies like the habs did last year because they have legit star forwards to pay which we've never had to deal with.

At best price may have another year or two left in him where he could perform while enough to be worth close to a 7mil cap hit for someone, but your perceived value that he would bring in a trade is way off in my book. Also Chiarot only gets a 1st if there not many LD available, Giordano gonna be the most sought after, i think habs will be extremely happy if they can pull a 1st out of a chiarot trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 janv. 2022 à 17 h 29
Sujet: MTL TDL
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DucharmetheDOMinator</b></div><div>Chiarot will land at least a 1st and 3rd, price is not just returning a 1st. He gets a 1st, a former 1st round pick that worthy of that selection (ex. Bourgault), a B goalie prospect ( konovalov)
And a 2nd or a B forward/defense prospect. So in this package of chiarot and price and I would add a 3rd, the Habs should get: Broberg, 1st, bourgault, konovalov, Lavoie. That's the price</div></div>

they would never get close to that. If that was the fair market value for price seattle wouldve just selected him in the draft and moved him. The fact they didn't even want to touch that should tell you all you need to know.

I love price he's been responsible for pretty much everything positive that the habs have done i n the last 10+ years. but his contract, age and injury history is something every team will take into account. He had a great playoff one and showed that he still has some elite play left in him, but he also showed he cant take on a heavy load during the season which mean any team landing him will still want a decent backup on top of that. Most competitive teams could never have 14mil in goalies like the habs did last year because they have legit star forwards to pay which we've never had to deal with.

At best price may have another year or two left in him where he could perform while enough to be worth close to a 7mil cap hit for someone, but your perceived value that he would bring in a trade is way off in my book. Also Chiarot only gets a 1st if there not many LD available, Giordano gonna be the most sought after, i think habs will be extremely happy if they can pull a 1st out of a chiarot trade.
Forum: Armchair-GM23 janv. 2022 à 16 h 51