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Forum:
Armchair-GM
4 juin à 18 h 43
Sujet:
no domi
This is... probably what is going to happen. Good job.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin à 15 h 59
Sujet:
Utah Coyotes
Finally a decent marner trade proposal, but put doan instead of carcone
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin à 1 h 20
Sujet:
off season
I know a leafs fan when i see one....
Forum:
Armchair-GM
1 juin à 1 h 17
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>How's this scenario.....and you maybe think it's crazy, but I think it's fair. If the Leafs keep 11m Marner they have enough cap to sign two 2m bottom enders. 15m for three positions.
Let's image Marner waives and the Leafs get NOTHING in return. Leafs could sign three 5m players with term? Would the Leafs be better in this scenario? But that is why I think Marner's cap value is so low when no cap is being returned to the Leafs. Teams just spend his 11m on UFAs with term, instead of one year of Marner.</div></div>
Thats a good scenario as well. I agree we should not trade marner if it isnt for a haul. I would hope to keep domi/bertuzzi as the 5m guys. What do you think in your opinion he would get in a trade return if he did choose to waive his nmc? I was pretty suprised at what tkachuk got, especially knowing he did not want to resign in calgary.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 19 h 27
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>Marner trade who knows, but leaving that aside roster construction with new cap room is not too good. Pesce - no thx, overrated and way too much $ & term. Same for Zadorov. Roy - yes & add Tanev at $4M & maybe a vet to play bottom pair with Benoit for $2M.
Sign Duchene in place of Jankowski with the extra $;</div></div>
You might have a point about pesce and zadorov, especially zadorov. Brad loves "size" though which is why I did that. Hes the type of gm to go after zadorov (calgary), and pesce also fits that criteria and is right handed. Ima alright with your suggestion as well!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 19 h 24
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>I don't hate Marner at all. Now, I don't think he worthy of an 11m contract...but that's OK. I have never said he sucks in the playoffs. But he should not be the 9th highest paid player in the league. Why would he light it on a different team? He's surrounded by Matthews, Nylander, Tavares and a top 3 PP. He'll never be better statisically then he is now with the Leafs
But you just don't understand trade value. First why would Marner waive to Nashville in his contract year? He's better to stay a Leaf and pump up numbers.
Why did you trade one year of Marner? So you could use the departed cap to sign two UFAs to term. So wouldn't Nashville be infinitely better to keep those young assets, sign two UFAs (like you did) instead of one year of Marner.
It's kinda funny that to many Leafs "homers" want to trade Marner to spend his cap better on other players and get picks. But no consideration of the other team (in this case Nashville) for the construction of their roster. 99% of these homer Leaf trades never show "the other team" and the additional 10m (in this case that Nashville ) and how it's fits into their salary cap.
I think the reason so many Leaf fans want to trade Marner now is they think they entitled to a return before he leaves as a UFA. Take a look at the roster you just posted, You signed four UFAs from other teams and didn't give anything to obtain them.
And please no silly extension talk. They happen so infrequently, especially on year out from being a UFA. 94 points, 48 goal scorer Forsberg gets paid 8.5m. Do you think Nashville is paying Marner much more than that in an extension?</div></div>
I see where you are coming from. I guess a marner trade only goes down if a team believes he is worth that 11.5 m +. Colombus was willing to give him that years ago. Maybe that has changed who knows? I just believe that the skill that marner possesses, it is very hard to find, and that indeed he may only be worth 8-9 million, but teams are willing to spend that extra 2 million to get him. Toronto has too many of those players nylander and matthews) and cannot sustain another one, and they need to let one go. Teams recongize that and might try to lowball toronto, in which toronto can just keep marner. If nashville even just offers those two prospects and a mid pick, id probably say yes to that anywyas. Anyways, I personally think it is reasonable to believe teams would trade a good bit to have marner / the chance to sign marner. Now for him to waive his NMC in his contract year might be a stretch, but maybe he does it if there is an extension in place? You say those extensions dont usually occur, but who knows, Toronto always finds a way to get strange things done!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 19 h 0
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>The extension is not up to Toronto, that is a decision made after a trade.
As for the prospects, the difference is the team control and waiver exemption. Nashville is very high on both of those prospects in particular and both are exempt from waivers for like 4 more years.
I think it is highly unlikely that Cowen and L'Heaureux are NHL ready for next season, banking on them to carry your bottom 6 is unrealistic. McMann is decent but he is not a play driver</div></div>
Well believe it or not its probably the same amount of skill our bottom 6 had this year so whatever. We really need to focus on fixing our Defence. Not all areas are going to be fixed. You are right though, our bottom 6 will struggle to produce offense if it is like this. Cowan and L'heuruex may not even be NHLers that is very very true. Leafs have guys in the marlies who can fill in i guess, including holmberg and nick robertson. Also extensions can happen before the trade, look at the dubois trade for example! The extension occurs with the marner being aware of the trade. Again marner would have to agree to all of this, which may be a longshot. But if he decides hed be okay with nashville, I think this trade would be a decent idea. This trade was made with the purpose of taking no players with cap back so the leafs can address their D this offseason!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 18 h 53
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>palhal</b></div><div>Why would Preds do that trade? They are better just to keep those young assets and spend 11m on UFA(s). Why does Marner waive in his contract year.</div></div>
Why do you hate marner so much, arent you a leafs fan? Nashville isnt losing much, they have a good amount of prospects. You dont find guys like mitch very often. You can say he sucks in the playoffs, but last year he was great against tampa. He is going to go to a different team and absolutely light it up for them. I feel like GMs know this and would be willing to pay the price. The nashville trade isnt even that steep of a price as they are only losing a third liner, and two prospects who MIGHT be something?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 18 h 50
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>RipNasty</b></div><div>It's just place stupidity to think Marner doesn't get moved with a contract in place. He's got a NMC, why would he waive it to go to a team he doesn't want to sign with? Simply, he won't. So if he gets moved it's with a contract in place. This is the Tkachuk situation again. RFA or UFA doesn't matter, Marner will only go somewhere he wants to be. It's simple logic, and anyone saying otherwise just wants to see TO lose a trade by a massive margin. You have demonstrated a large anti Leaf bias on several occasions so we all know you are ignoring logic to fuel your desire to see the leafs get hosed.</div></div>
I think Marner would go to nashville -- Smaller market, fun place to be, seems like he would love it there, but you are right. Its fully in marners hands. He can demand to stay in Toronto and he probably will! This is just what I would do if he chose to submit a trade list and one of them was nashville.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
31 mai à 18 h 48
Sujet:
Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Ledge_And_Dairy</b></div><div>I have a hard time seeing Nashville moving both L'Heaureux and Molendyk for someone on an expiring contract. Replace one with Tomasino and then it's probably more reasonable.
Also you need at least a couple guys in your bottom 6 that can produce offense</div></div>
Forgot to mention it would have to come with an extension! Also remember these guys are just prospects, so they can either become good or become nothing, its a gamble. In this way, nashville does not touch their roster and is able to fully compete. A first line of Forsberg - Oreilly - Marner would be one of the best in the league and can carry them very far, still having saros and their young goalie. Hopefully cowan, mcmann and L'heureux can produce our offense lol, again its a gamble. My main goal was to free up a lot of money so when tavares 11M is off the books, the team can add even more. If Nashville wont move both L'heureux and molendyk, id rather just take L'heureux i think he is going to be really good.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 mai à 17 h 14
Sujet:
WHat is literally going to happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>miniwhoasked</b></div><div>Don't sign Lybushkin to an awful contract and you can afford Pesce/Montour.</div></div>
We could really only afford one if we decide to keep domi. Lyubushkin plays very well in torontos system, just look at how well he did in these playoffs. He was actually moving the puck very well. I think he is worth 3m. Now, if we could afford BOTH montour and pesce, well then DUH i would go do that. But we can only afford a 3m defencemen, and he happens to be the best one for toronto available!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 mai à 16 h 18
Sujet:
WHat is literally going to happen
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>hockeynutter</b></div><div>Knock Webber down, and instead of Pesce, sign Montour for a 7x7 deal. Cowan or Reaves and timmins in minors and sign liljegren to 2 year 2.8 million. Much better lineup. Go with our usual 30 man lineup vs 23 to start gives the extra salary needed. Montour provides more of what was needed this past playoffs.
Up til now, no team has averaged more hit than Toronto and Boston in a series. We played that so called toughness. We lacked puck movement to bring the puck up the ice from our defence. Montour is much better than Pesce at that</div></div>
I do not think florida will let montour walk. If they do, i would be all over him. But pesce is more than likely gone so thats why i think this will happen.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 mai à 22 h 3
Sujet:
BEST TEAM EVER
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Mikael_Smith</b></div><div>Could get Roy and Skjei for less probably, then use that money to sign a 3LW, not sure Cowan plays next year</div></div>
I agree we could get them for less, but i gave them a lot of money to make sure we get them.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
21 mai à 21 h 40
Sujet:
Bert Domi and DeBrusk
This is actually great. Dont know if they get that much for liljegren, but the marner trade is good. Give me that crazy man zach l'heureux he is gonna be darcy tucker 2.0
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 mai à 5 h 58
Sujet:
Marner
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GMBL</b></div><div>Bertuzzi was a nice fit but the Leafs are better off spending that money on defence especially since they have Knies who has a similar skill set as Bertuzzi's. If Tanev is the biggest addition, that this team gets, that would be disappointing especially since his days are numbered.</div></div>
Good point, but i still feel like letting Bertuzzi walk is wrong. I doubt there are gonna be any good D's in FA. Vancouver will find a way to keep zadorov, carolina will find a way to keep pesce or skjei, and even if they dont keep them, every team would go for them and we would not stand a chance. Montour is also gonna be resigned by florida, so i think the only D that the leafs will be able to actually get with their cap is chris tanev. There is no "big addition" this year, we are actually lucky to have the same team we had before. If we had more cap (aka marner trade, which is very unlikely to happen before july 1st meaning we have no cap to sign free agents, and is also just very unlikely to happen due to his nmc) we would be able to get many different players and outbid teams. Stupid NMC. GONE WITH MARNER SORRY.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 mai à 3 h 53
Sujet:
Thoughts
You are undervaluing the D market
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 mai à 4 h 26
Sujet:
marner stay
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LuckyMoneyPuck</b></div><div>homer leaf logic</div></div>
okay cool trade him for a 7th who cares
Forum:
Armchair-GM
8 mai à 2 h 32
Sujet:
marner stay
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>JuanDamienNebraska</b></div><div>PIT declines. DET declines. Get real.</div></div>
Dubas loves timmins who knows. Also sure id give up jarnkrok to any other team point is he might get you a second rd pick. 3rd line 40-50 points for 2.1M to help teams get into the playoffs and really good defensively? sounds good to any team.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
7 mai à 14 h 39
Sujet:
Plan sign ON boy konecny in 2025 amp Defense gt
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>AEcho</b></div><div>NSH isn't paying you to dump Jarnkrok. NSH had Jarnkrok for a long time, and has no interest in a reunion</div></div>
well whatever send jarnkrok out for a second to whoever dont matter
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 23 h 0
Sujet:
Marner doesnt wave NMC
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Dickie_Dunn</b></div><div>Same result</div></div>
Probably. But the next year when they get tavares money they can put it to great use
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 22 h 49
Sujet:
Marner to LA the only realistic trade due to his nmc that hell never waive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>If you think this is realistic you’re definitely a Leafs fan.
As you can see Kings fans don’t agree with you. I’m sure there will be non Kings fans that won’t agree with you soon as well.</div></div>
Okay go look at marners playoff stats. This year was the only bad year. kempe had one really good season. Marner has been way over ppg for so long. do you guys even know who mitch marner is. He just cant perform in toronto. any other team he goes to will tear it up. Hes gonna leave toronto and win a cup. thats just a toronto thing to happen. so i think this trade is very fair.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 22 h 45
Sujet:
Marner to LA the only realistic trade due to his nmc that hell never waive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>It's utterly unrealistic to think that Los Angeles would trade either seven seasons of future captain and #1LD Mikey Anderson or two seasons of Adrian Kempe for Mitch Marner, let alone both.</div></div>
Kempe is older than marner. This is more than fair.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 22 h 45
Sujet:
Marner to LA the only realistic trade due to his nmc that hell never waive
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>tryger</b></div><div>Kempe put up 70 points at nearly half Marners cap hit and is signed longer. I wouldn’t do 1 for 1 with just Kempe,</div></div>
He did it for one season. Mitch has been beyond ppg for 6 seasons now. That is worth it.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 20 h 39
Sujet:
if you want marner gone you are braindead
GTavares isnt waiving his NMC and the team isnt moving him either.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
6 mai à 20 h 36
Sujet:
Marner for McTAVISH
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GiggywithGibby</b></div><div>Cool, go trade him for PLD.</div></div>
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