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Forum: Armchair-GM31 mai à 19 h 31
Sujet: Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MondayLettuce</b></div><div>I see where you are coming from. I guess a marner trade only goes down if a team believes he is worth that 11.5 m +. Colombus was willing to give him that years ago. Maybe that has changed who knows? I just believe that the skill that marner possesses, it is very hard to find, and that indeed he may only be worth 8-9 million, but teams are willing to spend that extra 2 million to get him. Toronto has too many of those players nylander and matthews) and cannot sustain another one, and they need to let one go. Teams recongize that and might try to lowball toronto, in which toronto can just keep marner. If nashville even just offers those two prospects and a mid pick, id probably say yes to that anywyas. Anyways, I personally think it is reasonable to believe teams would trade a good bit to have marner / the chance to sign marner. Now for him to waive his NMC in his contract year might be a stretch, but maybe he does it if there is an extension in place? You say those extensions dont usually occur, but who knows, Toronto always finds a way to get strange things done!</div></div>

How's this scenario.....and you maybe think it's crazy, but I think it's fair. If the Leafs keep 11m Marner they have enough cap to sign two 2m bottom enders. 15m for three positions.
Let's image Marner waives and the Leafs get NOTHING in return. Leafs could sign three 5m players with term? Would the Leafs be better in this scenario? But that is why I think Marner's cap value is so low when no cap is being returned to the Leafs. Teams just spend his 11m on UFAs with term, instead of one year of Marner.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 mai à 21 h 57
Sujet: Spending all of our cap on defense
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MitchJr</b></div><div>But aren’t there more than two options:
1/ he isn’t trade and walks as a FA
He is traded as a rental so minimal return
How about:
3/ he isn’t traded and signs an extension (my preferred option, understand it won’t be everyone’s)
4/ he is traded with an extension in place

If he is moved, #4 is far more likely than #2. Marner has full control here - I can’t see him waiving to play somewhere for one year (in a contract year) so far more likely he only moves with extension in place or agreement that he signs extension; exact same situation as Tkachuk and Dubois.</div></div>

The Leafs probably won't be in the mood for a rental trade as the Leafs will going for it, especially since they don't have any picks in the first four rounds in 2025.
Yeah the Tkachuk/Dubois scenario could happen. I wonder what Marner's negotiating strategy will be. He's really a 9.5m player right now, and with his reputation (right or wrong) as a non playoff performer and really wonder how 32 GMs perceive his value.....but it only take one doesn't it to overpay.