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Forum: Armchair-GM6 juin à 13 h 11

Sujet: Funsies

Why would we trade Sergachev, he is our best defenseman and still pretty young. Also Jeannot for Goodrow is a terrible trade.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 59

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>Probably the roster player that would make the most sense would be Hoglander (still cheap), plus a pick.</div></div>

Even tho I like Nils Hoglander, If Tampa trades Cernak, it will have to be for either a top15 pick or a young promising player like Johnson imo. I don't think any package that involve Hoglander would push Tampa to pull the trigger.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 55

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TBLogan21</b></div><div>hes in the same boat as de haan and de haan got league min</div></div>

Well, De Haan is also a very reliable defenseman. Just did not work in Tampa, I also think Miller is way better.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 54

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TBLogan21</b></div><div>Surely this very reliable defenseman is a regular in the nhl.(hes not)</div></div>

40+ games a season since 2016 is quite reliable for a 3rd pair guy. He is not a star or anything but, still pretty good.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 47

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TBLogan21</b></div><div>whats your fascination with colin miller stop overpaying for a #7</div></div>

A 7th D lmao? He is a very reliable defenseman imo. I really like what he can provide to Tampa's defense. Nothing flashy but, good all around. 2.5m is more than fair.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 43

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>Kaliyev has a QO of less than 900k and has far more upside then Jeannot ever had and we have to add to this? Jeannot has played 40 more career games then Kaliyev and only has 9 more career points, Jeannot would be a good fit on the Kings no doubt about it but any team that pays that guy more than 1m a season is overpaying him. Jeannot had one good season producing 41 points the other 3 seasons of his career he hasn't broke 20 points.</div></div>

Right but, Jeannot produce more than points. He is very reliable defensively + brings physicality like no one else. Sure Kaliyev offensive upside is higher but, clearly does not work in LA.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 40

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>alwaysnextyear</b></div><div>If Cernak is on the market I think VAN would be very interested...</div></div>

I could see it but, what can they offer for Tampa?

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 32

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BoomerTheHero</b></div><div>We already have too many RD. If we somehow trade Severson and Boqvist, then targeting Cernak might make sense. I agree with everyone else, TB would have to add to make the trade, but without many drafts picks or great prospects, not sure what they could add that would be attractive enough to the Jackets.</div></div>

What about someone like Dylan Duke ?

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 31

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boltsfan71</b></div><div>This defense is not better than with cernak, it doesn’t make sense to trade for a 34 yo just to trade away his 27yo d partner</div></div>

I'm not saying the defense is better without him lmao, I'm saying that even without him, next year defense is gonna be better with the addition that we already made.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 16 h 24

Sujet: Price Check

Perbix is worth around a 3rd probably.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 21

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boltsfan71</b></div><div>They got mcdonagh to play with cernak again, he’s their best shutdown guy before him it’ll just be like last 2 years all over again</div></div>

This defense would clearly be an improvement from last year, Sergachev is our best defenseman, he played 34 games last year, Dumba was terrible, we upgrade on that with Miller. We also add in McDonagh. Even if we lose Cernak, it's better. Also, depth scoring was an issue all year. By trading Cernak, we also improve that.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 13

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hckeydude123</b></div><div>Kings pass, not overpaying for a 4th liner. Can find one in free agency for cheaper.</div></div>

In what situation 1.3m is overpaying? Basically the same price you would pay for Kaliyev if he resign.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 11

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>dopplsan</b></div><div>CBJ need KJ's T6 potential more than they need a Cernak.

Even then, TBL would have to add. Considering they are still going to be a late-1st/low-end prospect team for a few years, not sure what kind of package they could even make avaialble.</div></div>

I agree that Tampa would have to add a bit.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 10

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Subbanator7667</b></div><div>Cernak doesn't have that value lol</div></div>

Right handed defensemans have a lot of value, especially someone that is still pretty young and on a long-term deal. I could probably see Tampa adding something else in the deal tho.

Forum: Fauteuil - DG5 juin à 16 h 7

Sujet: Kent Johnson

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>boltsfan71</b></div><div>Can’t trade cernak defense will be just as bad as before</div></div>

I disagree, we have Sergachev back from injury, we traded for McDonagh and we have extra cap space to sign Collin Miller. Also, Lilleberg will probably be a bit better defensively with the extra year.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 14 h 36

Sujet: 2024

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Champa_Bay</b></div><div>idk grundstrom would be a nice pickup and for cheap, we could also keep motte but tampa needs more gritt on the fourth line not to be cliche but its true, perry-bellemare maroon worked so well because they can bully the opposition and kill time in the corner, motte is a good player but our top 6 is already quite undersized</div></div>

I get it but, I don't see it that way. We can have a physical team overall without having a gritty 4th. A defensive 4th add more to the team imo. The PK was Top5 in the league last year. Motte is a huge part of it. I also think we should not trade picks if we don't need to. Our prospect pool is already awful. We need to add to it.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 14 h 21

Sujet: Pens 2024-2025

Rakell is a good player but, Tampa can't take is contract. Even at half retained, it would not work.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 14 h 18

Sujet: 2024

I like Kaliyev and Krebs but, it's one or the other imo. We can keep assets and play someone like Goncalves or Huuhtanen instead. We also don't really need Grundstrom, we just resign Motte instead and again keep assets.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 14 h 4

Sujet: Turning Chicago into a Good team

Tampa is blocking you, wtf is that return lmao.

Forum: Armchair-GM5 juin à 14 h 1

Sujet: Bouncing off an idea

I would love Kent Johnson but, we are not trading Cirelli. If you can work out something with Cernak for Johnson, then maybe but, I doubt the Jackets would do it.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juin à 19 h 0

Sujet: Cernak out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Boltsbeathabs</b></div><div>Julien Brisebois didn't acquire McDonagh to trade Cernak period full stop. They acquired him to pair them back together.
What does Julien Brisebois have to do to prove he doesn't place a high value on draft puck ( HE TRADED AN ENTIRE DRAFT CLASS FOR JEANNOT! )</div></div>

Sure but, I'm not JBB. This is not what he will do but, what I think he should do.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juin à 18 h 45

Sujet: Cernak out

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PuckLuck_77</b></div><div>Kings can't take on that type of cap in any trade.</div></div>

3rd team could retain half on Jeannot, the kings give extra 4th.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juin à 17 h 46

Sujet: Canes v6

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>vikhodush</b></div><div>That’s what I did. Read the description.</div></div>

my bad

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juin à 17 h 28

Sujet: Canes v6

The value is there but, Tampa is not retaining cap. you will probably have to send a 4th for a 3rd team to be involved and retain.

Forum: Armchair-GM4 juin à 17 h 25

Sujet: Quick Retool

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Socal_King</b></div><div>Kaliyev+4th for Jeannot+Perbix?</div></div>

Kaliyev+3rd for Jeannot+Perbix. I would say Kaliyev, Jeannot and Perbix all have 3rd round pick value currently.

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