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Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 sept. 2021 à 22 h 54
Sujet:
Eichel - for csick
Incoming Habs fans claiming that Suzuki is untouchable, even in a trade for jack fxking Eichel
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 sept. 2021 à 23 h 31
Sujet:
Eichel - for csick
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>SheaWeber6</b></div><div>And he should. At 22 he lead his forward group to a Stanley Cup Finals. Jack Eichel couldn't lead his to the damn playoffs.</div></div>
Look who plays on Buffalo and who plays on MTL. Besides, the two years prior Eichels sabres were first in the league for a month if I can remember correct, not his fault that the sabres are literally an ahl team. If Eichel was on the Habs instead of Suzuki last year, Habs would’ve won the cup
Forum:
Armchair-GM
11 juill. 2021 à 2 h 51
Sujet:
hmmmm
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>McSchleep</b></div><div>I agree this is Ovi vs Crosby v2, Matthews may be better defensively but McDavid is in another league offensively. 106 in 56 and a PPG in the playoffs whilst being on a trash can of an oilers team I think McDavid's contract is fine. Your paying 11.6 mil for reg season only Matthews, the guy whos know for scoring 40 goals with ease in the reg season, struggles in the playoffs? Him and 9.5-10 I think is fine but him with Panarin money?</div></div>
Go hate on the Leafs somewhere else, this ain't the place. Haven't seen such bad takes in a long time. Have you looked at Matthews' playoff stats ever? Montreal and Danault did a good job shutting them down and went on to shutdown every top line. Point only had one goal in the finals so I guess he's bad as well.
Also you say Matthews SCORED 41 IN 52 GAMES but it was easy cause of the division but McDavid is much better cause he scored over 100 points.... They played in the same division idiot!!
Forum:
Armchair-GM
10 juill. 2021 à 2 h 7
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>F50marco</b></div><div>Detroit......Detroit gets to choose if its the right amount of overpay to accept or not.
Either way this wasn't in regards to the above trade, rather the idea if telling Detroit fans that they wont be getting what they want out of the deal.
Thats the beauty of owning the players rights, they can choose whatever they want to do. So yeah, they'll be getting what they want or they simply keep the player.</div></div>
The fans don’t choose… I think that’s the point. Returns on players are usually lower than what fans expect.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 22 h 1
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>He started on the top line and played over KK. He had a slow second half so I don’t really agree with your utilization but I do agree on him being a pesk but wonder how effective he will be when playing in the NHL at that size for his style. I could see him being a B prospect like I said not a B+/A-.
Nothing in life is going to predict what can happen in the next four years. Like I said, he routinely gets checkups and any team doing due diligence is going to have access to that if a deal is to materialize so less of a risk. Could he re-injury it? Sure, he could also come back and play 100% the next four years.</div></div>
No doubt, but it is an issue. Players coming off of major injuries especially back or knee related are risks. It will affect his value, by how much I don’t know. But my point wasn’t his trade value it was his value to the redwings. His injury, his age and the combination of return and cap space return make him an appealing target to move. But there’s also the human element. All in all it’s an above market value trade.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 19 h 38
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
honestly I think that trade would already be my max giving up for bertuzzi depending on how highly both teams have abramov. I understand detroit fans POV but its just not worth the risk/price imo to pay much more for him
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 18 h 59
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BStinson</b></div><div>I’m sure Yzerman is savvy enough to trade anyone for the right price but this literally goes against OP. Every player can be traded (eg Gretzky). Yzerman isn’t going to settle on trading him and they’ve been tracking his progress. Any team acquiring him would be privy to that info also so again moot.</div></div>
I’m glad yzerman has a crystal ball but I’m sure the other 31 GM’s don’t really care.
1st, 2nd and an A-/B+ Prospect is pretty fair value for a 40-50 point guy.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 18 h 58
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>GenXHockey</b></div><div>What a tired argument. “Because there was one bad trade all trades must be bad. “
Does that mean the leafs could trade Holl for Larkin? I mean larsson or Hall dictates that we can…</div></div>
If you look through trades that is around the value of bertuzzi it's not far off some trades that has been today. Like kapanen got a 15 OVR and a prospect. Do I think someone like kerfoot will get that. Hell no. Do I think kerfoot is better than kapanen maybe if not the same value. Looking at multiple trades > one trade
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 18 h 54
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>mhroblak</b></div><div>That cap dump is only worth about a second for Detroit. Washington paid a 1st and Vrana for Mantha. Overpay.
You’re not getting Bertuzzi from Steve Yzerman with this offer</div></div>
What a tired argument. “Because there was one bad trade all trades must be bad. “
Does that mean the leafs could trade Holl for Larkin? I mean larsson or Hall dictates that we can…
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 18 h 50
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>aedoran</b></div><div><strong>HEY GENIUS WE AREN'T TRYING TO TRADE HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!</strong></div></div>
Maybe you aren’t but I’m sure yzerman is.
I think he’s smart enough to weigh the two sides.
-keep him and roll the dice on his recovery to have a 30yr old player when this team is ready to start contending.
Move him pick up a 1st and 2nd with a solid prospect and open up cap space to take on a cap dump (lots of teams will be looking) and pick up another 1st and maybe even more.
I think it all really depends on how much interest he gets.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 18 h 41
Sujet:
Wings Fans youre not getting what you think for Bertuzzi
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HabsFuture</b></div><div>Vrana is better than Mantha and younger. Panik was arguably a cap dump for salary reasons but he is still a useful bottom 6 player. It was not like a Lucic type cap dump where he is negative value</div></div>
This is capfriendly bottom 6 guys are **** and shouldn't exist
Forum:
Armchair-GM
9 juill. 2021 à 8 h 6
Sujet:
Tavares LTIR Until Playoffs
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DiehardRedWingsFan58</b></div><div>More like are you serious? Kucherov had a legit hip injury and surgery. There's nothing wrong with Tavares other then a fan wanting to cap circumvent.</div></div>
Going to say that Tavares' current injury status is probably legit
Forum:
General Fantasy Talk
6 juill. 2021 à 0 h 29
Sujet:
Top 5 Defenceman in the League Right Now Debate
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CMcAvoy73</b></div><div>With very good reason.</div></div>
If you've ever watched hockey you'd have a reason
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 juin 2021 à 16 h 12
Sujet:
Domi Garland Hamilton Coleman
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>BorisBagel</b></div><div>Jackets pass</div></div>
just wondering why? I would think they would prefer new younger players and picks as domi is likely leaving next year
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2021 à 6 h 54
Sujet:
Tkachuk and Konecny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Tkachuk is a better two way player, and Marner's showing in the playoffs (and his contract) work against him. Other than pts, Tkachuk is the far better player. Sanheim's age and contract status brings him closer to Reilly IMO, but if thats the way you view it, thats the way you view it</div></div>
Mitch Marner playoff career: 25 pts in 32 games.
Matthew Tkachuk playoff career: 5 pts in 15 games.
Mitch Marner's alledged playoff failures are greatly overstated.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
23 juin 2021 à 7 h 20
Sujet:
Tkachuk and Konecny
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hammerwise</b></div><div>Tkachuk is a better two way player, and Marner's showing in the playoffs (and his contract) work against him. Other than pts, Tkachuk is the far better player. Sanheim's age and contract status brings him closer to Reilly IMO, but if thats the way you view it, thats the way you view it</div></div>
Tkachuk contract works against him more than Marner. His QO is over 9 and he can go to arbitration and walk to UFA
Forum:
Armchair-GM
29 sept. 2020 à 23 h 20
Sujet:
Big Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>HOCKEYBOY448</b></div><div>I will happily cheer any team who trades for him so the Rangers don’t make that mistake.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DerekHubbard</b></div><div>Dawg... Newhook AND Byram AND Burky AND 2 1sts... that's just simply too much. Eichel is a GREAT player but you can't mortgage everything for one guy, even if it is Eichel. If BUF was seriously looking to move Eichel to COL it would probably look like Kadri, Timmins, maybe Annunen or Beaucage or another B+ prospect, and maybe 2020 1st and 2021 2nd. Newhook and Byram are the untouchables IMO.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>TheOtherAuston</b></div><div>That's an astronomical amount to give up for one player. Each one of those players fit in a top 6F top 4D
(Prospects in time) Colorado would be foolish to make that deal</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>anyone saying this is too much is incredibly misinformed. the impact eichel would have on the franchise out weighs anything you give up for him besides mackinnon. you overpay for eichel 10 times out of time. a player like him neverrrrr hits the market</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>Avs decline both trades, yikes talk about destroying a team
Maybe stick to making leaf rosters</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OldNYIfan</b></div><div>The problem with Eichel is that he throws the whole payroll out of whack. Notice that in order to make the offer attractive, you're selling two future top-line players who are still on their ELC's, which is why you have only 20 guys on the roster with room for only one more. You'd be better off giving up Kadri, Burakovsky, GIrard and one first.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>CheechYou</b></div><div>Kadri + Bynam + Newhook for Eichel is a fair deal. No need for the picks or Burakovski, that's too much.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>OrganizedConfusion55</b></div><div>More like big dream, pieces aren't going to land a player that isn't on the trading block</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>How's that impact working out in Buffalo? He's a great player, but it's a team game. Gutting the roster and prospect pool to bring in one guy is a horrible idea.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>zinner21</b></div><div>Hate to tell you, but that's probably the price you have to pay for Eichel. Top 10 player in the league.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Reason</b></div><div>It’s a lot to give up but I don’t thinks unreasonable, as a previous commenter said, “A player like him [Eichel] never hits the market”.
That roster kind of makes me think of Pittsburg’s roster over the last decade, dominant top 2 centres and a solid #1 D (I think Makar will be better than Letang ever was).
The rest of the lineup is solid. Colorado is ready to win now, this trade gets them there quicker.
Don’t know if I would do, it’s a thinker!
Interesting proposal!</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>lmfaooooo eichel plays in dog **** buffalo and is STILL a top 10 player in the league. not one forward on his team wouldve hit 60 points this year.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>Yup, he's great. Not sure why you think I'm arguing otherwise. What I'm saying is you can't deplete the roster and prospect pool, not to mention give up picks, to bring him in. If you end up with Compher and Donskoi in the top six then even MacKinnon and Eichel aren't going to drag them to a Cup win.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eharr0613</b></div><div>First Eichel trade I’ve seen that makes sense and sending realistic value. And people drag it. Lol.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>The Avs are trading 2 elite prospects, a 2C, a top 6 winger, AND 2 1st rd picks. As great as Eichel might be that’s an easy no for the Avs.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>That’s not realistic that’s wishful thinking the Avs aren’t doing that trade ever.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>youll have Mackinnon,Eichel,Rantanen,Landeskog and 8M to allocate to the top 6 because i dont see Cole being there next year. i also dont think zadorov will be there either. donskoi & compher are more than capable Middle 6 forwards.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>coga16</b></div><div>It’s getting ripped bc it’s a leaf fan making a dumb trade for the avs bc clearly he hasn’t a clue about the avs at all and straight destroyed their roster and future. It’s awful bc of that</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Eharr0613</b></div><div>Eichel won’t get moved in the first place. Because this is the value. It’s the first trade where it’s not one prospect, a cap dump and a first or two. Eichel’s a franchise player. What do you think a fair offer is? And A and A- prospect and two firsts and to tradable pieces for what will be a rebuild team isn’t terrible.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>Makar, Landy, and Grubauer all need raises after the year (the first one is obviously a big one). I'd love to make Eichel work, but it just doesn't. The only way the team could even think about adding that kind of salary is by filling the roster with ELCs. Unfortunately they trade both Byram and Newhook in the above and the cupboard is pretty bare.
It's probably too much to give up even in typical times. It's way, way too much in the flat cap era.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>if your top 2 centres are Mackinnon and Eichel you do whatever it takes</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>That’s fair, but Byram and Newhook are A+ prospects, Kadri is a 2 time 30 goal scorer and rock solid 2C, Burakovsky a top 6 winger and 2 1st rd picks. Even granting the 1sts are toward the end of the 1st rd that’s a Lindros type haul. COL isn’t instantly putting themselves into cap hell, gutting their farm system and trading away the ability to replenish it for ONE guy. No team is making that offer. If COL were inclined to make an offer it would obviously have Kadri, ONE of Newhook or Byram, a 1st, a depth forward like Compher or Donskoi, and something else depending on the prospect BUF picked. But COL isn’t even making a courtesy call on Eichel because the cost is prohibitive.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Xqb15a</b></div><div>That’s worked out so well for TOR, who at least got Tavares in FA.</div></div>
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Anus_McLeod</b></div><div>Not disagreeing entirely but I do think Eichel is different because of how young he is. If Colorado could get him for like Kadri, Graves, Newhook, and a couple firsts then it could work. Byram and Bura makes it silly though, and the flat cap really hurts too. It's just not in the cards.</div></div>
If I tagged any of you twice I am sorry
How does this:
Kadri, Nazem
Burakovsky, André
Byram, Bowen
Newhook, Alex [Reserve List]
2020 1st round pick (COL)
2021 1st round pick (COL)
2022 2nd round pick (COL)
Compare to this:
BTW Look at the Lindros trade 1992-Jun-30 if you wish to know his value.
Chris Simon, LW 25th OA pick 1990
Mike Ricci, center 4th OA pick 1990
Kerry Huffman, LD 20th OA pick 1986
Ron Hextall, GK not much value at the time
Peter Forsberg, hall of fame center 6th OA 1991
Steve Duchesne, LD undrafted hall of fame
future considerations,
round 1 pick in the 1993 draft,
round 1 pick in the 1994 draft
and cash
Jack is a proven NHL star, Lindros was a prospect.
Guess what this is actually a decent offer.
It does not destroy the current line up only giving up Kadri and Burakovsky.
Eichel will make ANY winger look better than Burakovsky.
It is one of the trades that actually helps each team.
Colorado now, Buffalo in the future.
Finally, do you think having Jack would have been enough to beat the Stars?
Yup, he would have won at least one of the four games the Aves lost.
Pull the trigger make the deal.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 sept. 2020 à 19 h 39
Sujet:
Big Trade
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>DerekHubbard</b></div><div>Dawg... Newhook AND Byram AND Burky AND 2 1sts... that's just simply too much. Eichel is a GREAT player but you can't mortgage everything for one guy, even if it is Eichel. If BUF was seriously looking to move Eichel to COL it would probably look like Kadri, Timmins, maybe Annunen or Beaucage or another B+ prospect, and maybe 2020 1st and 2021 2nd. Newhook and Byram are the untouchables IMO.</div></div>
Hate to tell you, but that's probably the price you have to pay for Eichel. Top 10 player in the league.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 sept. 2020 à 19 h 31
Sujet:
lets get laine
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>i think Barzy will be fine, but i just love f*cking with the isles fans that resent leafs fans cause tavares came here , and the ones that scream "we dont need you"</div></div>
Yea Barzy will be fine I just like to imagine how good he'd be if he still had JT lol. Don't blame you either, they're easy targets
Forum:
Armchair-GM
28 sept. 2020 à 19 h 26
Sujet:
Thoughts on Marner at C
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>Nylander was there for the final game and didnt look that great but how can you fault him when he hadnt played there in god knows how long</div></div>
Oh okay. Didn’t know that.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
22 sept. 2020 à 7 h 2
Sujet:
bring it haters
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>MakeMarnerACentre</b></div><div>bennett for nylander is the only fair bennett trade in flames fans eyes lmfaooo</div></div>
It's pretty clear by now that any fan of any team thinks any player on their team starts with Nylander. This site is littered with fools.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 sept. 2020 à 14 h 22
Sujet:
Cernak and Kuemper
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>I am sure you have lots of stats to back that up, I don't know enough about goalie stats so hopefully you can post some examples I can use to catch up to your obviously superior level.
From what I have seen, Kuempfer is good. So is Andersen. Both have flaws. To say that the difference between them is worth this trade is ridiculous. You surely can not believe this is a proper valuation.</div></div>
Kuemper's GSAA and GSAx are light years ahead of Andersen.
Same thing for his GAA in 18-19 and 19-20
Forum:
Armchair-GM
16 sept. 2020 à 10 h 22
Sujet:
Gibson can be an option
Why would Andersen only get the leafs a 2nd round pick, when Kapanen got the leafs a 1st and mid tier prospect?
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 sept. 2020 à 17 h 4
Sujet:
FleuryPietro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>PleaseBanMeForMyOwnGood</b></div><div>One goal in a contract season really benefits guys demands.</div></div>
I'm just telling you what you need to know. His agent is Darren Ferris, who doesn't have a history of taking bargain deals when his guys' values are low.
Forum:
Armchair-GM
15 sept. 2020 à 17 h 1
Sujet:
FleuryPietro
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>benjgc</b></div><div>I think that deal could get it done with Columbus, though I can promise you there's no chance Anderson signs for that little over five years. You offer him $2.75M, he takes the QO and heads to UFA next year. I'd be stunned if he signed for less than $3.5M per year, and honestly $4M is likely the floor.</div></div>
One goal in a contract season really benefits guys demands.
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