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Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2019 à 13 h 27
Sujet: Marner to Dallas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>You can hide the money. You can also find other loop holes. I used the Matthews contract because it was just signed as an example. That what this proved.

And on the Matthews deal, most everyone thought he'd be getting ~this AAV with a few more years. In the roster construction, the AAV is important, not the term. So I was right on the AAV. Most just thought Matthews would do what McDavid and Eichel did.

So how is it inaccurate anything that I said exactly?
I was right in the AAV, I just expected this AAV to come with a longer term. I was wrong on the contract as a whole, the term to be specific, that doesn't mean saying he gets 11-11.5 was wrong.


How is it changing it to grey? I'm saying I was partially right, which means I was partially wrong. That is pretty clear no?</div></div>

No. It really isn't....considering a guy like Bob MacKenzie said that for them to settle on the $11.5m for 5 years means that they were looking at $13-$14m on a 7- 8 year term. Assuming buying 3 more years of UFA at the same price is 'partially right' is, honestly, giving yourself way more credit than you deserve....especially when just a couple of days ago you were saying he would be at $10m or below on a 5-6 year term. If you're willing to give yourself a small 'win' for being within $1.6m of the actual AAV then you can't spout off at people who are guessing $1.6m higher than what marner might get.

And copying and pasting the same rant about Eichel vs Matthews and, despite getting valid responses, still pleading that they should be compared to each other and begging for people to continue to explain why....

look..you'll get a lot better reactions on here if you're willing to share your opinions as well as accept someone else's. You can't throw stats and numbers at someone and claim the intellectual high ground if you're going to completely ignore how business negotiations actually take place.

My entire occupation in real life is negotiating financial compensation. 99% of the time there's a deal to be had by understanding what the other party values most and angling your pitch to them that focuses on them getting what they want most...not by using statistics to prove why they should just accept your number.
Forum: Armchair-GM6 févr. 2019 à 13 h 3
Sujet: Marner to Dallas
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Austin Matthews bonus money is being taxed at 15% (total) if he lives in Canada. Less if the USA.

For comparison, the lowest Canadian federal tax bracket is 15%.

What you just posted is 100% false.
<a href="https://theathletic.com/411211/2018/06/27/why-taxes-shouldnt-prevent-john-tavares-or-any-free-agent-from-signing-with-a-canadian-team/" rel="nofollow noreferrer noopener" target="_blank">https://theathletic.com/411211/2018/06/27/why-taxes-shouldnt-prevent-john-tavares-or-any-free-agent-from-signing-with-a-canadian-team/</a>

“I can make it so signing in Montreal is the same as signing in Texas,” an agent told The Athletic.</div></div>

If you're going to spout off at least choose your words wisely. Being paid in bonus vs salary and having associated tax savings is very different from saying you can hide money.

So is saying that you were calling for an $11.5m cap hit for Matthews everywhere on this site for a year and now saying you were right and only got the term wrong.

You make black and white comments in the present and then change them to grey once the facts come out