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Forum: Armchair-GM5 déc. 2019 à 15 h 55
Forum: Armchair-GM5 déc. 2019 à 13 h 39
Sujet: Leafs improved defense amp backup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Pmwalker</b></div><div>Didn’t the cap stay the same and it’s notexpected to rise above 81.5 until after expansion?</div></div>

No, the cap increased from 79.5 million to 81.5 million.

A quote from 31 Thoughts by Elliotte Friedman:

"There is an interesting development regarding the 2020–21 salary cap. Because players and agents were trying to avoid putting too much salary into what could have been a lockout/strike season, there is less cash scheduled to be paid out next year. There are some big contracts on the way (Torey Krug, Alex Pietrangelo, etc.), but the overall amount of cash is still going to be lower. That’s good news for escrow haters, because (very early) predictions from both the NHL and NHLPA indicate that number will be very low. It’s too early to know for sure, but that opens the possibility the players add some breathing room by using more of their “inflator” on the cap. They can raise it up to five per cent, but have been going considerably lower the last couple of seasons. Cap-strapped clubs would love that news."

Still up in the air, but we're likely to get more of an increase from last year.
Forum: Armchair-GM5 déc. 2019 à 13 h 16
Sujet: Leafs improved defense amp backup
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>newballcoach</b></div><div>We apparently have very different visions for what defenceman should be. Barrie shouldn't earn 8 million because he can't defend. Playing him with an excellent defender to make him good enough to play is not what you want to do with an 8 million dollar player. Larsson being a solid #4 is also a bit of a question mark.

Not to mention that you've significantly depleted Toronto's depth at winger, greatly weakened the third line and are trusting 3 rookies with fairly important minutes. And you've raised the salary cap 2.5 million, which is far less than it was raised last year.

I really don't think this is very good, sorry. And Slavin is an absolute stud, if Carolina made that trade they would be foolish.</div></div>

You could also move Adam Larsson to the top pair with Slavin. It would be a shutdown pair. Barrie with Dermott has looked good.

Keefe doesn't play the third and fourth guys like Babcock did. Their minutes are greatly reduced since he became head coach. We don't need the insane winger depth when we're paying our top guys a very high percentage of the cap. Let the big boys play while improving the defense.

The cap went up 2 million last year. Early indications are that last year was an anomaly and it should go up more this year. 2.5 million increase is a safe bet.

Can't argue with Carolina wanting to keep him.
Forum: Armchair-GM31 janv. 2019 à 14 h 45
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. 2019 à 15 h 40
Sujet: Doesnt Look Too Bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>That acgm was built in the off season, and is incomplete as I was waiting for this season to finish before I finished it. The reason it's formatted terribly is because it's literally not done.

The Nylander number was without cap inflation or any other factors included only using the Ehlers comparison. As I said, it is not done.
Nice to know you did not actually read it. Seems like everyone who doesn't thinks the way you do. Funny that...
The part I was referring to was the stats for Matthews, which are. Funny how you don't acknowledge that ...


You argue about me getting the Nylander thing wrong here, yet it was not done and did not factor in 2/3rd of the stuff.

If you are going to critique something, actually give it a ****ing read first...

You also don't talk about any of what I said at all in the post...</div></div>

I'm not going to bother reading your 25 paragraphs of misinformation and outdated numbers. What a waste of time that would be.

I'll end it with this. Your projections for Marner and Matthews are both wrong. I'd bet money on it.

Go back to the drawing board with how you calculate your projected AAV. You're about to get Marner, Nylander and Matthews all wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GM30 janv. 2019 à 0 h 2
Sujet: Doesnt Look Too Bad
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Okay, so he gets 11.whatever for 8 right? (that is Eichel + inflation + however much better you think Matthews is).
RFA's take off huge parts of their salary due to CBA **** to go shorter.
Take off a year take off a million or so.
Therefore,
I figure he wont go much below 9 so no use going to 5.
6@9.34
7@10.34
8@11.34
Also, the kane and towes argument only factors in points, and not other major factors. Everything included that number is very close, so Kane/Toews is 5@9.2, then Matthews (with some of his issues) would come to 5-6@9.34.
That is a fairly easy comparable.

Now tell me, when you could get Matthews at 8 years for just a touch over your prediction, why go to 6?

I cannot for the life of me understand why people on her think the Leafs will have to so badly overpay for their players. Yeah they are very good. They are even elite.
That doesn't mean you have to overpay for no discernible reason.

Your numbers are stupidly high for no real reason. Eichel got 10 for 8 years. Matthews and Eichel are EXTREMELY COMPARABLE (see <a href="https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/884206">https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/884206</a>) &lt; go to 3rd section

So why would Matthews get that much for way less term. UFA years are expensive, taking them off takes off a huge amount</div></div>

I just checked out the link you sent me to your post.

I'm sorry, but that thing is a bit of a disaster. There's so much outdated information, and it's formatted terribly.

You got Nylander wrong, by a million dollars.

You keep comparing the last season, or the last two seasons when comparing players. This is wrong. You compare the entire ELC PPG. This is why you got Nylander so wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GM29 janv. 2019 à 23 h 36
Sujet: dealing from position of weakness because of cap hell
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Random2152</b></div><div>Matthews AAV is the same as Toews at 83 cap. Comparable contracts put that right there for a 6 year deal.
Marner would be the 2nd highest paid winger with this contract behind proven performer and (almost) UFA Kucherov.
The 8 year deals are 8@11.34 and 8@8.5-9 respectively. People here seem to think Toronto needs to badly overpay for their players for no real reason. Marner is much closer to Gaudreau, who got 6.75 I will remind you.

So I ask where you get your absurd numbers for these players? Media who think Marner will get 14? and Matthews will somehow get 25?</div></div>

You're saying Marner should sign less than Kane/Toews, even though their production is nearly identical while giving up 3 UFA years?

Those 3 UFA years are going to be extremely expensive.

It's not going to happen. The Leafs have no leverage here.

Matthews will get way more than Toews did. They are not equal. Matthews' production is way higher through his ELC.