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Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 14 h 39
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>How eager would you be to trade Zucker if he’s healthy? If the medical staff in Pittsburgh think he is gonna be ok then he’s not a cap dump imo.</div></div>

For me…zero. He’s been a .5 ppg player playing 3rd line minutes. When he’s healthy he’s been actually pretty decent. Even when he’s not scoring, he’s doing everything else well.

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>I think that it’s far more likely that GM’s r waiting to make a move until the Bjorkstrand trade seems less relevant to whatever move they want to make. That could be a week. That could be a month. Idk. I find it hard to believe teams can just will insane cap dumps into existence.</div></div>

Agreed
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 14 h 32
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hockeyfan1234</b></div><div>Apparently the second a gm makes a questionable/bad deal, that is now what every other deal should look like.
I think this is a great deal for Anaheim. I don’t see why Pittsburgh does it. I think they’d rather just keep Zucker and get out of the contract sooner than take on Bailey. I don’t think Bailey is really a cap dump. I could see Bailey getting a 6th or 7th from a team with cap space as a low risk/high reward player. Same with Zucker. If the pens wanted to get rid of Zucker, they could probably get a 6th or 7th from a team like Anaheim or Arizona who could flip him at the deadline 50% retained for a much better pick.

I bet if anyone on here would have traded a 3rd and 4th for Bjorkstrand on here a few weeks ago that they’d have gotten ripped and called a troll.</div></div>

I think that it’s far more likely that GM’s r waiting to make a move until the Bjorkstrand trade seems less relevant to whatever move they want to make. That could be a week. That could be a month. Idk. I find it hard to believe teams can just will insane cap dumps into existence.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 13 h 39
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Again we r talking about Ken Holland here. We r taking about Chris Drury if you want to bring up the Nemeth deal.

Holland, Drury, Fletcher, and Kelly McCrimmon are morons. Jarmo doesn’t look that smart rn either.</div></div>

Apparently the second a gm makes a questionable/bad deal, that is now what every other deal should look like.
I think this is a great deal for Anaheim. I don’t see why Pittsburgh does it. I think they’d rather just keep Zucker and get out of the contract sooner than take on Bailey. I don’t think Bailey is really a cap dump. I could see Bailey getting a 6th or 7th from a team with cap space as a low risk/high reward player. Same with Zucker. If the pens wanted to get rid of Zucker, they could probably get a 6th or 7th from a team like Anaheim or Arizona who could flip him at the deadline 50% retained for a much better pick.

I bet if anyone on here would have traded a 3rd and 4th for Bjorkstrand on here a few weeks ago that they’d have gotten ripped and called a troll.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 58
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LargeFarva</b></div><div>Kassian with 2 years on his deal cost a 2nd, 3rd and 4 spots in the 1st. Even with his injury history I think Zucker is more valuable than Kassian, particularly with only 1 year left on his deal. Maybe it's 2 3rds, or a 2nd and 3rd, but that's kind of the point of the deal - Anaheim takes Bailey and immediately swaps him for another asset and Zucker, who can be traded for yet another asset the TDL this season.</div></div>

Kassian is owed $600 k more over 2 years as Zucker is in 1 year. There are 10 teams currently over the cap. A few of those teams have it sorted via LTIR, which leaves 6-7 of them trying to figure it out. On the other end, there are 9 teams with over $9 mil in space. 4 or 5 of those have RFA's that likely own't be cheap to sign, which leaves 3-4 teams total to absorb any cap dumps.

IMO, if a team taking on a cap dump at this point of the offseason isn't getting an absolute premium, then there's really no reason to do it. Arizona is the only team below the floor right now, but should be fine once Hayton/Crouse are signed. Buffalo made their cap move with Bishop. Anaheim jumped above with Klingberg, who you'd have to imagine, they intend to flip before the deadline. All of those teams are non-contenders, and have no reason to do it without getting solid assets. 100% my opinion though, and I could be completely wrong.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 42
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 25
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Isles5513</b></div><div>Breaking News: NHL fans want a first to take on Former All-Star and Clutch Playoff Performer Josh Bailey. Bailey is 32 years old and is one year removed from having 20 points in the isles ECF run. 32 is OLD! He’s about to DIE! And I demand 3 FIRST ROUND PICKS to take him.

That’s what y’all sound like rn. Lower ur expectations.</div></div>

Josh Bailey is making 5M a year for 2 more years, the Isles <strong><em>Need</em></strong> to dump salary, they have 0 leverage in any deal for him

He is declining and expensive, Ive been watching Josh since he played in Windsor, if anyone appreciates what he does its me, but he is undoubtedly a cap dump right now, and it will take a premium to dump his contract
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 27
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>CBJ had to move out a contract, VGK had to move out a contract, OTT didnt need to move out a contract

Teams that need to move cap out have 0 leverage in moving players out if there arent suitors for those players

There are realistically 5 teams that can take on cap dumps over 3M: ANA, ARI, BUF, CHI, DET

Thats it, and its only going to keep getting smaller of a list, and those teams are going to ask for more and more each day to take on that cap</div></div>

Or the isles send Josh Bailey to LTIR with a sprained dick and bring him back in the playoffs. I wouldn’t put it past lou or any other Gm to game the system. Hell I’m not even sure players will be against it if they r older. Will keep them well rested lmao.

I can picture it now

Josh Bailey LTIR: sprained dick

Kyle Palmieri LTIR: Damaged ego.

Matt Martin LTIR: Broken Middle Finger.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 19
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Salzy</b></div><div>Teams need to be compliant by a certain day, the amount of days is going down not up

The amount of teams that can take on cap is going down

The amount of cap that those teams can take on is also going down

There is no scenario where the cost to dump salary goes down, it only goes up and it goes up drastically.

The "Talent" in question here has 0 positive value to the teams with cap space to fit them, it will cost a premium to move any cap hit like these out.</div></div>

I remember the Matt Murray cap dump demands lol. Yeah Bjorkstrand was dealt for a third. Yes Pacioretty was traded with Dylan Coghlan for literally nothing. So how the **** is Connor Brown worth a second? I assume that I have no idea who has trade value and who doesn’t in todays day and age. What Vegas and Columbus do is not necessarily the only path forward for nhl teams.
Forum: Armchair-GM3 août 2022 à 12 h 13
Sujet: Anaheim facilitates 3-way -- the kind of partner we all dream about
<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LargeFarva</b></div><div>I'm just working under the assumption the Isles have to dump someone to fit Kadri on the roster. I like Bailey, particularly since he shows up in the playoffs (and against the Pens specifically), so I thought it made for an interesting deal for Pittsburgh.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>LargeFarva</b></div><div>I see your point if this was a true 3-way trade, but maybe Anaheim takes Bailey first without the Islanders knowing the intent to flip him to Pittsburgh.</div></div>

<div class="quote"><div class="quote_t">Quoting: <b>Hullsy09</b></div><div>Both teams decline, but especially the islanders. They would maybe do this if we weren’t division rivals but they won’t for that reason</div></div>

You are both right. My philosophy is you move bailey if you are clearing space for an elite guy around Barzal’s age. Not Nazim Kadri.

I’m gonna be honest tho. Wouldn’t shock me to learn Lou is gonna trade Varly and Beauvillier before Bailey. Bailey just might be too difficult to move in this market. I genuinely don’t know.
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